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Old 08-16-17   #61
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Old 08-17-17   #62
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*nods*

To belatedly answer your question because I was procrastinating about it because I am fairly embarrassed to be at 33 and saying this but mostly it's that I don't really know what I want to do.

I would probably enjoy/be good at being a history teacher, and I might enjoy/be good at being a professor. Well I think I would be good at lower levels at least, I'm really not sure if I'd make much progress on the tenure track but everyone seems to be phasing that out anyway.

Then alternately I end up thinking maybe I should just say fuck that and move into the Shenandoah or down near Richmond and make artisinal meads or something and be like hipster-Beorn. But like, not that weird movie version that was like radiation-mutant-Hugh-Jackman.

And then I think about other things I also want to do.

I want to do a lot of different things really and there's no way to survive doing that really.
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Old 08-17-17   #63
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Oh and then when I think about pursuing a doctorate in history I have to nail down what I want to actually specialize in which is also spread out over a bunch of different options.
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Old 08-17-17   #64
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My daddy has a house in luray, in the Shenandoah valley. I actually can picture you around there. Maybe teaching at JMU or the community college or doing whatever. I love it there because it's just country enough to allow you to lose yourself in it, but you still have easy 1.5 hour drive to metro DC. When Daddy passes, I'll probably put down my roots there in the big ass house that will never sell.
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Old 08-17-17   #65
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Well this thread got all sentimental. You two need to fight again.
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Old 08-18-17   #68
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Yeah, the temptation of the area is that it's pretty and scenic and low-tempo and has an isolating buffer from the DC metro blob, but it's not like, unreasonably far away. Like hell I could commute to GMU, especially once we get robot cars and I can just nap on the way over.

We can argue over what to do about Nazis but it gets awkward trying to ignore Billy existing in that convo.
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I've been pretty OK since Trump took office, but this last week after the nazi stuff has really got me fucking down. Like, I hate to admit it on here, because Billy is just going to take it as reinforcement that his team is winning. But the amount of people I've seen jump to defend the fuckin Nazi's just because, to do otherwise would be to side with liberals... it's depressing.

The justifications and reasoning is all so insanely paper thin. A fucking legit nazi murdered someone and injured 20 others using ISIS tactics, but conservatives are still blaming the counterprotesters for being violent. How do you make that logical jump?

I guess I need to get off of social media for a while, but then I just feel like I'm ignoring the situation. What can a person do? Calling my representatives won't do anything. I can counter-protest I guess, and hope I don't get hit by a car or gunned down.

It makes a guy want to put on some face paint and join the Juggalo march.
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Its not really about my "team winning" white nationalism is the inevitable conclusion to identity politics... you knew eventually wed get around to white identity... and here we are. This is what you all wanted wasnt it? Socialism, group politics, etc? Here it is.

You dont have a real reason to be sad yet, wait until these rallies turn violent for real, I had thoughts to going to a few more of them, but after Berkeley and Cville... nah, ill watch from home. I dont need to be murdered by democrats for wrong think and I definitely dont want to be put into a position where I have to kill one to save myself.

Also please define "nazi" because I watched many of those cville livestreams I saw maybe 4 people LARPing as nazis, the other 99% were identitarians, there IS a difference you know.
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You can always just draw a line in the sand and refuse to engage with people who espouse Nazi ideology and defend them. Like we could just ignore Billy here and not give him the satisfaction of a reply for instance to send the message that there are social repercussions to being a white supremacist piece of shit no matter how much time he spends trying to dress it up as something else.

Or just go to the rallies and punch Nazis in their face. But I expect the violence to escalate at this point and I don't want to be there when one of these things turns into a shootout.

It's also not easy to just exclude people from your life that are important. Like with Billy it's easy because who cares about Billy, but when you have a close relative or even a parent that's not exactly defending Nazi ideology but is trying to equivocate them with BLM or generally downplaying the seriousness of the problem, what can you do?

I do also think the Nazi thing can be kind of a distraction because at the end of the day it's a pretty small and fringe group. There are maybe a couple million white supremacists in the country at best, and that's probably a very generous over-estimate. There a couple hundred million plain old-fashioned racists though, which is a much bigger social hurdle, and the more you focus on active, ideological racism as the enemy, the easier it is to hand-wave passive, day-to-day racial prejudice.
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define nazi, also define supremacist. if you can.
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punch a nazi hahahaha... you little low T genderqueer, you wont punch anything, ever. youre a lifelong student, and an antifa communist, you have no idea how much of a LARPer you are.
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You can always just draw a line in the sand and refuse to engage with people who espouse Nazi ideology and defend them. Like we could just ignore Billy here and not give him the satisfaction of a reply for instance to send the message that there are social repercussions to being a white supremacist piece of shit no matter how much time he spends trying to dress it up as something else.

Or just go to the rallies and punch Nazis in their face. But I expect the violence to escalate at this point and I don't want to be there when one of these things turns into a shootout.

It's also not easy to just exclude people from your life that are important. Like with Billy it's easy because who cares about Billy, but when you have a close relative or even a parent that's not exactly defending Nazi ideology but is trying to equivocate them with BLM or generally downplaying the seriousness of the problem, what can you do?

I do also think the Nazi thing can be kind of a distraction because at the end of the day it's a pretty small and fringe group. There are maybe a couple million white supremacists in the country at best, and that's probably a very generous over-estimate. There a couple hundred million plain old-fashioned racists though, which is a much bigger social hurdle, and the more you focus on active, ideological racism as the enemy, the easier it is to hand-wave passive, day-to-day racial prejudice.
I have the family issue as well. It came to a head after the election and we didn't speak for a while. Things are starting to get back to normal, as long as nobody brings up politics. Part of me feels like I'm being too easy on them. I'm really starting to think that the best move is to just leave the country. I'm lucky enough to be in a position that I could do it with relative ease, and I've always thought patriotism and pride of one's country is fucking stupid., so that doesn't hold me here.
Maybe WL can chime in if things are any better over there. I know the UK isn't much better off than we are right now.
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It is pretty tempting to move to Canada. It wouldn't be far enough away that I wouldn't be able to keep in regular contact with and sometimes visit friends and family.

The weather, though.
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Eh, just stay on the southern border and you'll be aight.
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Last night a driver for CRST Freight came in and accused I and my colleague; who happens to be bald and look like a neo-nazi; of being racist and hating, in his words, "niggers". All we did was ask why his trailer was 3 days late coming in from Chicago.

Racism is part of every culture, everywhere. It is ingrained in our humanity. As long as we all appear different in our physical state we will have opinions, good and bad, about those whose appearance disagrees with ours.

Take a look at our illustrious history, never has a day gone by without some sort of war somewhere upon the globe fought by one group against another group of humans.

The things that make us humans are also the things that most often destroy us.

Everyone hates, everyone loves, human nature does not take skin color into consideration. Pigmentation does not the person make. A foaming at the mouth racist black man is no better or worse than a foaming at the mouth racist white man. Both are consumed by irrational idealism.

Last night was a perfect example, a black man telling two white men that they hate "niggers" because we called him on his incompetence. I ONLY HEAR that word from the mouths of black men. White folk are way to politically correct to utilize that word in any way, yet every rap song seems to utilize it over an dover again. Maybe in some attempt to OWN the word.

It just makes them appear ignorant.

I am white, I married white, and my son has deep blue eyes and blond hair. I am not racist. I hate everyone quite equally.

To catch up, I am happily married to a beautiful 31 year old strong independent woman, my son is a little over 3 years old, and I work in freight logistics now.

Within 5 years I plan on moving my family as far into the wilderness as I can, away from the rot of modern civilization. Seclusion and segragation. Self-sufficiency is really the only escape from modern consumerism.

It is good to see that you folks are all doing well, or as well as anyone can do in this day and age.
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fr0g, you know from your time here and probably your wife that it's a different kind of situation to deal with here. The supremacy/nationalist thing is still a fringe movement. You rarely hear people in power (Conservatives) spouting that sort of shit, and when they do they're dealt with pretty quickly on an official basis. UKIP lost all their parliamentary seats, and no one takes the EDL or BNP seriously aside from the same fringe motherfuckers who buy into that sort of thing.

Sure you'll hear some asshat complaining at the pub about how he's not allowed to be English (false) and the Polish builder stole his job. But generally speaking there isn't quite the level of hate.

There has been some anti Muslim violence and some anti EU violence but that's fairly rare and again, on the fringes.

You'd be more likely to hear someone complaining about Romanians than you would about "niggers" or "wetbacks".

Does that mean it could escalate? Maybe.

I guess I've never understood how anyone can look at another person and feel superior due to an accident of birth location. Due to genetics. These things weren't earned, and that flies in the face of what we used to believe in America. That what you were born as doesn't have to be what you die as.
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I just read what you said about using the word nigger. Sorry but i have to call bullshit. It's said all the time, said with abandon. At the grocery store, outside church, friends, family, strangers in a bar. I heard it in South Carolina, Alaska, DC, New York, London, Manchester, and its equivalent even in Frankfurt.
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