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Old 11-13-03   #1
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an opinion.

Darkforum has become rather interesting as of late. It seems the overbearing handful of users have stomped around letting none of us have any harmony. I just don't really get it. Unless of course people are so blind that they don't realize that the majority of them are doing exactly what they are bitching about.

Now, I haven't really taken any sides in this whole thing... though I am sure some of you (MD) think I have. I'm basically an insignificant participant in this experience, but a rather good observer. One day HOMO's were born. And they made a sort of tongue & cheek agenda regarding their vision and concerns, and gripes, and what not. Cool enough... so what, these relatively like minded individuals, want to have a laugh so they start a sort of club. Kudos for them. Then, something happens, someone listened.

Someone listened when they said they wanted a place that was open, and that they could express their opinions outside of the bitch board. So that they could discuss general topics without a moderator holding their hand (not that there was overwhelming moderation previously, it was just well, rather selective). So lo and behold the Open Forum was born. Kudos again.

From that was born a 'Moderated General Forum' so that those who still needed to hide behind rules, or would rather have serious discussion topics segregated from those that would not be moderated. Sounds reasonable enough. The first few days there wasn't too much activity... a few polls for new forums, a couple topic threads. However, the bickering continued. First at the bitch board, and then to the open forum and now to the 'moderated general forum'. In my opinion, it's all kind of lame.

What the hell is it exactly? Is it jealousy over a few people’s voices actually being heard? That's kind of what it seems like. It seems that people really can't get over it, and even in the 'moderated general forum' the threads are spammed with all this "you're violating my darkforum rights" crap. From what I have seen, it's just that some people don't like other people and won't be happy if they have to interact with them in any way.

Now, certainly we have the ignore feature, and even though it doesn't work for Mods (which btw, if we can't ignore them they should NOT be able to ignore us), that's still not good enough for some. I have seen people act completely unreasonably with someone using one user name, and then act totally cool and reasonable with the same person under a different username. That screams ridiculous.

I guess my point is that people don't have to agree with each other, that people don't have to act like asses just for the sake of being asses. That Mod's should act like Mod's regardless of what board they are in and conduct themselves with a certain level of decency not expected from your average member, and finally, get over it.

Some people made a change and others are kicking and biting and scratching trying to resist. Change is inevitable. Again, get over it. You don't like the open forum, don't go there. You don't like the moderated general forum, don't go there... shit, I don't much care for the otherkin forum, and I don't go there.
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Old 11-13-03   #2
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This is the first time I have actually seen you raise an opinon fuckdoll, why do you stay quiet when your opinon is just as valid as the rest of ours? (Which is not very valid at all unfortuantely.) You have a good head on your shoulders so I think you should really allow yourself to speack up more often. Especially about the mods which I do agree with by the way.
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Old 11-13-03   #3
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I usually don't speak up because besides the flames in my sig my posts are relativly unrecognized. And besides.... this bickering back and forth... just not my thing...

I've spoken many times with the proper 'authorities' about my problems with a Mod or 2. It just seems that most people don't want to step on anybody's toes, and those that do want to put on their steel toes and trample all over ya.

bah... whatever... I suppose I just needed to spit out my opinion on this subject and (hopefully) be done with it. and thank you.
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was that someone me who listened? cause i have wrote about this in my journal when i was seriously confussed about what was going on in the open forum.
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no shy doll... it was the administration who listened...
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I usually don't speak up because besides the flames in my sig my posts are relativly unrecognized. And besides.... this bickering back and forth... just not my thing...

I've spoken many times with the proper 'authorities' about my problems with a Mod or 2. It just seems that most people don't want to step on anybody's toes, and those that do want to put on their steel toes and trample all over ya.

bah... whatever... I suppose I just needed to spit out my opinion on this subject and (hopefully) be done with it. and thank you.
holy shit, there are flames in your sig! i always stared at your avi. and there was no mention of hetero in your speech. despite throwing around little to no political weight, we have some of the hottest and coolest chicks in df.
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holy shit, there are flames in your sig! i always stared at your avi. and there was no mention of hetero in your speech. despite throwing around little to no political weight, we have some of the hottest and coolest chicks in df.

that you do... I'd jump MN's bones in a heartbeat. heh.
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Fuckdoll.... your words are just as valid as anyones and you shoudl never be afraid tyo post your opinion....

(fucking typos)

I have long been an advocate of having a board with little to no Moderation for those more hostile members here.... and in making sure that the rest of the Forum is safe for those who do not want to deal with hostility....

as of now any antagonism off the Open Forum will be dealt with harshly and decisively.....

and I think members do forget that we have the Ignore feature which prevents them from seeing anothers posts....

yes you cannot ignore Mods..... and as a rule of thumb Mods cannot Ignore Users except for extreme circumstances and than only for a short while....

Such as I have done before to cool down....
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Fuckdoll.... your words are just as valid as anyones and you should never be afraid to post your opinion....

(fucking typos)

I have long been an advocate of having a board with little to no Moderation for those more hostile members here.... and in making sure that the rest of the Forum is safe for those who do not want to deal with hostility....

as of now any antagonism off the Open Forum will be dealt with harshly and decisively.....

and I think members do forget that we have the Ignore feature which prevents them from seeing anothers posts....

yes you cannot ignore Mods..... and as a rule of thumb Mods cannot Ignore Users except for extreme circumstances and than only for a short while....

Such as I have done before to cool down....
makes sense.

I've not ever been afraid to post my opinion... It is just usually (generally) ignored, (I'm not speaking of more serious concerns I have addressed in pm with admin) and that's all fine and good... This doesn't stand up universally as there have actually been a few who have responded to my opinions I think because they see I am often overlooked.

And stating my opinion once on a matter, even clarfying for people perhaps is cool (debate can be fun...) but I can't stand participating in bitch and moan fests... just not my bag...

I can even understand the Mod thing... I understand why you shouldn't be able to put a Mod on ignore. If someone out there wants to do so, then the problem, since it pertains to a Mod, should be addressed rather than ignored. I get that. (I also seem to have mastered the art of scrolling quickly through certain peoples posts. Luckily we have Avy's wich makes it easy to identify a person and scroll on by )

oh, and thank you.
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noooo nooo i wasn't saying that... it was a joke but in light of everything, yeah... that was insensitive... i'm sorry...
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It seems like it's only a handful of members who have been arguing and living in disharmony. Most of the other members are just going about their business like always. And what if we weren't arguing, what would we be doing? Fr0g and I would be making fun of people and participating in real discussion now and then, DM would be *licking* and *stabbing* people, Billy would be tempting the mods to ban him, as always, Proto would be talking down to people, and dyshade would be looking at gay porn. While I can understand you are tired of hearing us bitch back and forth, I don't think the forum is really any worse off for it.
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It seems like it's only a handful of members who have been arguing and living in disharmony. Most of the other members are just going about their business like always. And what if we weren't arguing, what would we be doing? Fr0g and I would be making fun of people and participating in real discussion now and then, DM would be *licking* and *stabbing* people, Billy would be tempting the mods to ban him, as always, Proto would be talking down to people, and dyshade would be looking at gay porn. While I can understand you are tired of hearing us bitch back and forth, I don't think the forum is really any worse off for it.
lol, and as long as it isn't in every thread, amen.
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you can ignore me..you just chose not to. im like crack, addicting but bad for you.
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noooo nooo i wasn't saying that... it was a joke but in light of everything, yeah... that was insensitive... i'm sorry...
its ok. sometimes my temper.......
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i hope you aren't showing your crack. otherwise i'll dub you plumber billy.
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