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Old 01-15-03   #1
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Best Black Metal Song ever?

What do you think?
My favs are:
Burzum-det som engang var
Marduk-Slay the nazarene
Cradle-Priciple of evil...

maybe I forgot some...
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Burzum "jesus Tod"
Bathory "Blood Fire Death"
Emperor "Thus Spake the Nightspirit"
Lord Belial "Angelgrinder"
Cradle of Filth "principle"
Mayhem "Chainsaw Gutsfuck"
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Mayhem "Chainsaw Gutsfuck"
How was it...
"This next song I dedicate hereby to the pope..."

Oh, and:

Immortal- Unholy forces of evil"
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Immortal "Tyrants"
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Hanson- Mmm Bop
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Gorgoroth - possessed (by satan)

Khold - hekseformular i vev


Emperor - the burning shadows of silence


Cradle - Lustmord and wargasm
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Hanson- Mmm Bop

Aren't you cute.
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Her Ghost In The Fog - Cradle Of Fith
the first song i hears by them and still one of my favorites.
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yes, thats one of my favs too.
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The clip for it fucking owns too
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"I am the Black Wizards" is a good choice too. Blistering black metal and hell, it sums up the black metal scene perfectly: Purposely bad translations of english words, Wizards and arcane mythology, and winter.
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curious how many ppl mention C.O.F.
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I am no expert on balck metal but i do know that COF are not black metal. I do think they did atart off with a BM sound but they are nothing like it anymore.
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Cradle of Filth si still black metal, just an evolved form. The only people still doing "pure" black metal are Darkthrone and Ildjarn, truthfully. All the new BM bands usually throw in some melody and make full use of, at the least, synthetic orchestra stuff.

Hell, Emperor did it and they're hailed as quite possibly the best Black Metal band to date. Even Bathory used acoustic guitars. No, I think CoF is still very much Black Metal. Just because they have decent production values and a strongsense of composition it doesn't make them deviant from the genre.
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I understand what you are saying but i still dont think they are black metal. I do know that there are many BM bands that have evolved but they are still in ways BM and others just like COF have moved on to be something that is not BM. But like I said before I am no expert in it so i guess this is another genre we can disagree on in what is what.

Also in what you believe black metal is do you think The Sins of Thy Beloved are one?
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Nah, TSOTB is a more...I donno, Doom-goth-esque band. I've only heard a few of their songs, they sound like a Theatre of Tragedy clone and I'm not a fan of them either. Nah, not Black metal.

I've yet to hear a female fronted BM band (if someone knows one lemme know). I mostly consider black metal to be the founders (Emperor, Bathory, Darkthrone, Satyricon (early), Dissection [who were THE first], Burzum and Mayhem and then a couple years later in the English scene Cradle of Filth) and a few contemporaries (Dimmu Borgir, Lord Belial [yes I know they were early as well], some of VIntersorg's stuff, Ildjarn, Peccatum, Myrksog, Zyklon B, Agaithodaimon,AmonAmrath ).

Those are the BM bands I listen to, and while there may be alot more out there those are the ones I really consider at the core of the scene. Alot of the other bands are just taggers on like the Death and Grind scenes had at their apex. I DO consider CoF as BM though. I donno how anyone can listen to Principle of Evil Made Flesh and tell me it's not Black Metal . The still retain enough black metal qualities in thier later work to stay out of just being lumped into 'extreme' or 'melodic death' or 'fast fast fast gothic' for me.
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Shit, can't believe I forgot Marduk up there.
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I agree with you on TSOTB not being BM but on their last album they sound closer to a COF then they do to ToT

Anyways have you heard of Opera IX because they were a female fronted band but not anymore because they booted her out. You might also check out Thorr's Hammer because the vocalist of this bands is one of the best that i have ever heard.
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I DO consider CoF as BM though. I donno how anyone can listen to Principle of Evil Made Flesh and tell me it's not Black Metal . The still retain enough black metal qualities in thier later work to stay out of just being lumped into 'extreme' or 'melodic death' or 'fast fast fast gothic' for me.
I do agree with you on that Principle of Evil was BM but I think that they just gradually got away from being BM and I just don think they retain enough of it that they could still be called it but there are still parts in there music where it is still there.
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I think that because they retain enough of the elements coupled with their past,they stay Black metal to me (I know I completely lost sight of grammar in that line but I'm too god damned tired to fix it). Can't forget your roots, and roots play heavily into the equation. Mayhem's newer albums really don't sound too Black Metal at all but there's no disputing what genre they're from. I understand your point though, CoF has moved away from their original sound quite a bit and I cn see where your coming from.
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