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Old 11-26-01   #1
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Why do we die

Besides the cellular decay, why do we die?

Why are we designed to have a shelf life?

Why aren't we designed to live forever?
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Maybe because if we lived forever, eventually our brains would be overloaded by all the information we gathered...also, if we lived forever, we wouldn't have the need to reproduce, right? And with the agression level of the average human, we'd be wiped out by each other long since...
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But what if there was a set number of us and when one died another was born?

And without the fear or threat of death would we be agressive at all?
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Like the phoenix? How do you plan to fix that technically?

There would still be greed, power, jealousy, rage...
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..or would there?
How many of those are born of fear? and fear would be much less, eventually, over time we would probably "grow out" of those too.

And it's a technicality I've been working on for a while now, I'll figure it out eventually
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But what if there was a set number of us and when one died another was born?
that does actually happen.
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Limits, Everything in this universe has limits. Rules. If the Human Race did not die, and lived for ever then there is no growth.

"Adam" the Perfect, had one fatal flaw, like a vampire he could not change. In a Universe that is always changing, If we did not die, then when evolution changed the world about us, the World would have no place for us.

*shrugs* We Die so that we can remain in Harmony with our enviroment.
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how do know we don't live forever and that this little life isn't just a whim created by you in your "real" life?

perhaps by being mortal, we can experience more "firsts" and learn things...pretty sad argument. ok then lets just say i don't have the answer.
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What if this is all a simple dream... a nightmare to some, BUT a dream never the less. When we die, we awaken to what we really are ...
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sounds like Merlin in Excalibur...

"a dream to some, a nightmare to others" It makes sense
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We would be too good, too advanced. If you believe in fate without fear we might as well be robots as free will and individuality are gone but with the re-creation factor we would be a like a set-scale virus.
Without fear, rage or almost all other emotions there would be no character to humanity.
There could be production in form of reasearch and technology but it would have no meaning.
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Re: Why do we die

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Besides the cellular decay, why do we die?

Why are we designed to have a shelf life?

Why aren't we designed to live forever?
Our bodies formed out of evolution. Evolution is based on the concept of survival trough adaption. Something that is permanent, fixed, cannot adapt.

Basically, we die because nature needs us to.
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Fear...

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..or would there?
How many of those are born of fear? and fear would be much less, eventually, over time we would probably "grow out" of those too.
The thing is; we cannot exist without fear, as much as we cannot exist without happiness.
Ever seen someone completely unafraid? Even those who have very little fear still have some, which is what gets them up in the morning.
The minuite we don't have to fear death, we will have no reason to eat, to sleep, to breathe.
We will have no reason to get out of bed in the morning.

Having too much fear is what creates greed and anger and violence...that's what I think.

"Being afraid of a pit is stupid. Being afraid of the floor at the bottom of it is sensible."-Some old guy...er...(damn. Can't recall his friggin' name).
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maybe it's a bit matrixy. but then again, it wouldn't make sense if it were. because if it were, why would there be a movie about it you know? wouldn't THEY want to keep it from us and so not allow a movie to be seen in our little world?
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We live to learn. That includes learning to live with death.
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Re: Why do we die

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Besides the cellular decay, why do we die?

Why are we designed to have a shelf life?

Why aren't we designed to live forever?
what? im wondering why you even pose such a question.

if you harbor any of darwin's theories to be true, you have your answer right there. besides, we would have too many stories to tell and no one else would be able to speak.
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Re: Re: Why do we die

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Our bodies formed out of evolution. Evolution is based on the concept of survival trough adaption. Something that is permanent, fixed, cannot adapt.

Basically, we die because nature needs us to.
Yep. Death is a hardware upgrade, followed by a tedious software upgrade called life, followed by another hardware upgrade etc.
Our conscious minds are the terminals feeding information to the soul.
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why do we die...
why do we die.
a question I asked myself
one that occured so much
bcuz I want to leave my shelf
with all I learned and a hunch
of what comes next...
what comes next
but the beginning
the beginning of a new end
when all has died out
and "we" are no more
when souls have sang aloud
how they set out the timecore
flash.
solar explosion
matter implodes into nothingness
black cores reunite
partickels of something or less
a newborn
evolution is insight


history repeats itself,
why? bcuz the same fucking question drives all knowing insane
...


(looks for a dark place to create its own lil time out of space, space out of time...)
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about the matrixthingy... is all nice and all... but, that is just what it means what it is... the matrix is in your mind... u live inside yerself... u are what u think u are... u are what u want to be that u are... taz what it is actually all about, gathering shit inside yerself, and trying to build up your own world where u strife for perfect happiness (or GOD for the christians). ultimate enlightenment, sum need more help from the material world than others... more drugs than others... everyone has its own way, to reach that point where the questions fade away, and all ... all really doesnt matter since u know what I mean...


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they should find the old age gene. and remove it

after we inhabit another planet atleast..
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