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Old 11-01-01   #1
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Rap is funny

right now, im listening to the rap channel on tv for lack of any other music station playing something of worth. ive decided these guys are just joking. remember when you were a kid, you and your friends used to stand around and see who could pee the farthest, that's what these guys are doing. they're not peeing, but they're having a little 'gangsta' contest to see which can say the words 'nigga' 'murda' and 'gangsta' the most times.

as an overview, they are using their music to enter into the game to see how hardcore these cornfed 'nigga's are.
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Yeah, you have digital cable right, see if you get a channel called "MMUSA" or "MMUK".
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nope, i dont get them.
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Oh, well I get them, they are probably the best music video oriented channels out there, they play all the new videos, videos come out and are played on there before they make it to MTV or VH1, and they have pretty cool programming, go to www.mmusa.tv and check it out, you hav to click on the thing that says something like "Click here to load", it's on the right side, then check out the programs, there is one called mixtape masterpiece, I love that show....
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rap is comic. besides the 'gangsta' bullshit most of them just make fun of each other. i think it's hilarious...
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well...they better be joking, i feel sorry for the sap who takes that seriously, cuz rap....heh its pretty bad...
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What? Rap aint 'comic'. Rap is art.

Okay okay, I'll admit. Rap isn't exactly understood very well by those who aint able to appreciate it. Lemme get out of the way that the gangster style is... not what should be representing the Hip-Hop culture. I dunno if I can but I'm gonna try and see if I can convince you the artistic elements of rap. If I do, great. If I don't, well, I tried.

First, even in the pathetic "gangsta" style, there is alot of mind work going on. Why? Well, because it requires not just a brain, but a smart one, to come up with the stuff they do. They go way above and beyond simple metaphores, similies, oxymorons and iambic petamiter.

"To write you need-some-timeÖcanít play woodwinds because no one reeds-your-rhymes Ö "

Thats an old battle verse from a dude called Realik. I liked this line because, not only was there a pun, but it was also the way he set it up. If he set up woodwinds in the first part, it would have been much better. So yeah, alot of emcees make fun of each other. But they do so with intelligence. Someone just outright calling some one names would get laughed out so easily.

But then comes the reason I like rap. Emcee battles I could care less about. There is also a 'soft' side to rap. On this side of rap its the intellectuals, philosophilist, chaotic ones, and poetic dudes and dudettes belong to. In short, this kind of rap is literally poetry in motion. Heck, Egder Alan Poe could have been one of the greatest rappers out there since DJ Smash. (Smash=old school.)

"All of us are in the gutter
But I am looking toward the star
Fly right out like no other
To the sky to fly far"

That's one of the verses I wrote. It belongs in that softer, stop and make you think, section of rap. Or you can settle with 00agents stuff that mixes a style of dirty and purity:

"My rhymes are child proof
To bust your Bic lighters
I'm the man that make your mind expand like x-wing fighters."

Not only is the lyrics themselves an art form, but so is actually verbal requirments. Kinda like, you take all the photographs and draw all the pictures you want, but they won't matter if no one hears it. People read something, and they don't have a clue as to how to rap it properly. I remember my friend, who sucks at rapping, try doing some verses I wrote. I wound up having to burn the papers I wrote 'em on he was so horrible at it.

Anyway, I didn't mean to out on some sorta rant. But yeah, rap can be funny. But it can also be at a whole nother plane of thought, above all else. But if it uses overdose's of the N word and repetitive swearing, then you probably shouldn't listen to it. But if someone you hear is rapping about existince of God, lost loves, and spiritual torment then it is worth looking in to. Basicly, unless your a part of the Hip-Hop culture, there are probably TONS of things that you don't even notice rap's lyrics. Then again, how do you explain to a person blind since birth, the beauty of the moon in the night sky?
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rap is pure fucking shit , no talent, they just talk over a pre made beat that is made using drum machines and sample machines and they ain't even responsible for the cool beats
the producer is

eminem wouldn't be shit without dre and he still is shit
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Well I feel the same why about most metal but I don't go around saying it's pure fucking shit, you just let people listen to what they like and forget it, I admit, rap is funny, but it's still muSik, and I bet you my last testicle you wouldn't walk up to a black guy in the ghetto and tell him that "Rap is pure fucking shit"
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Rap is funny and aiiight by me...

Uh
Uh, uh, huh
Yoí, yoí
Drop your glasses, shake your a**es
Face screwed up like you haviní hot flashes
Which one, pick one, this one classic
Red from blonde, yeah, b**** Iím drastic
Why this, why that, lips stop askiní
Listen to me, baby, relax and start passiní
Expressway, head back, weaviní through the traffic
This one strong should be labeled as a hazard
Some of yíall n****s hot, psyched, Iím gassiní
Clowns I spot Ďem and I canít stop laughiní
Easy come, easy go, E-V goní be lastiní
Jealousy, let it go, results could be tragic
Some of yíall ainít writiní well, too concerned with fashion
None of you ainít Gisele, cat walking, imagine
A lot of yíall Hollywood, drama, passed it
Cut b****, camera off, real s***, blast it

And if I had to give you up, itís only been a year
Now Iíve got my foot through the door and I ainít goiní nowhere
It took awhile to get me here and Iím gonna take my time
Donít fight that good s*** in your ear, low let me blow ya mind

They wanna bank up, crank up, makes me dizzy
Shank up haters wanna come after me
You ainít a gangster, prankster, too much to eat
Snakes in my path wanna smile up at me

Now while you grittiní your teeth
Frustration, baby, you gotta breathe
Take a lot more than you to get rid of me
You see I do what they canít do, I just do me
Ainít no stress when it comes to stage, get what you see
Meet me in the lab, pen and pad, donít believe
Huh, 16ís mine, create my own lines
Love for my wordplay thatís hard to find
Sophomore, I ainít scared, one of a kind
All I do is contemplate ways to make your fans mine
Eyes bloodshot, stressiní, chills up your spine
Huh, sick to your stomach wishiní I wrote your lines

And if I had to give you up, itís only been a year
Now Iíve got my foot through the door and I ainít goiní nowhere
It took awhile to get me here and Iím gonna take my time
Donít fight that good s*** in your ear, low let me blow ya mind

Let your bones crack
Your back pop, I canít stop
Excitement, glock shots from your stash box
F*** it, thugged out, I respect the cash route
Locked down, blast this sets while I mash out
Yeah, n****, mash out, D-R-E
Back track, think back, E-V-E
Do you like that (Ooh), you got to I know you
Had you in a trance first glance from the floor too
Donít believe Iíll show you, take you with me
Turn you on, tension gone, give you relief
Put your trust in a bomb when you listen to me
Damn, she much thin and all, now Iím complete (Uh-huh)
Still stallion, brick house, pile it on
Ryde or Die, b****, double R, canít crawl
Beware, Ďcause I crush anything I land on
Me here, ainít no mistake, n****, it was planned on

And if I had to give you up, itís only been a year
Now Iíve got my foot through the door and I ainít goiní nowhere
It took awhile to get me here and Iím gonna take my time
Donít fight that good s*** in your ear, low let me blow ya mind
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I'm not big on rap but if your gonna quote someone...Public Enemy was the shit! There beats were dope yo.
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Okay, how about I try this. You don't have to like rap. But you need to respect it. It's art. It takes an INSANE amount of skill just to do something decent. Almost EVERY rapper do there own background music, which in itself is an artform. It takes incountable measures of dexterity for what the DJ's do. And everyone should respect a b'boy just by seeing what they do.

Again... you don't have to like it, but at least try to respect it. If you can't... your most likely ignorant of the ways of rap. In fact, you most certainly are. And I aint trying to insult anyone. I don't beleive in insults that much. But if you understood rap, you WOULD respect it.

Heck, I can't even stand country music, but I respect the amount of hard work and effort that goes into it.
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A fender stratocaster is not gonna stop a hollow-tip bullet from a 380 is it?
Hmmm... Well, it depends, I suppose. If the guitar body was incased by a nice, thick polished steel with multiple spikes coming out of the guitar, then, Yeah... I bet it would. But if you had just an ordinary Fender... Well, I doubt it.

Of course, I think it'd be sweet if you had a guitar like the one from that character in Chrono Cross. He could like destroy everything from just playing some chords. That was sweet... I didn't play the game all the way through, so I never got to see the potential of his future attacks.

But, anyways... I still think rap sucks cock. Anyone can rhyme a bunch of cuss words and bullshit complaining about how "bad" of a life they've had, or bitching about cops, or whatever. I just see it as really, really, really, really, really, really shitty poetry. The only way I respect any kind of music is if they can play an instrument, and play it good. But if they can make good songs to go with the instrument playing, weeeeell! All the better then!! You hand one of those rappers a guitar, a violin, a pair of drumsticks, a saxophone, or even a fucking harmonica... And they can't do jack-motherfucking-shit. Anyone can sing and rhyme words... But it takes real talent to play an instrument.

So, if I hear a a rap tune, and I find out that the Singer can play an instrument, and play it on some basis of "good"... Then Yes, I'll respect his/her music.

So, once again, I repeat. "Rap blows dogs for quarters." (Unless they play an instrument).

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Their instrument is made up of the diaphram and lips Which I'm sure you could not play as well as they do. I'm sure you don't want to either.
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keep it peaceable people... and in my opinion, like all forms of expression, there a oodles of bad rappers out there... but a few good ones... just like rock... just like country... just like classical (just listen to most b movies)... and just like poetry...

the main distinction i keep seeing though, is that people are stigmatizing because it orginated in black culture... ignorant people said the same thing about jazz (that is was a Black/Jew) thing... this is racism, even if noone wants to admit it... i am a jazzman as well as rock, techno, and even a little rap... i mix and record, play brass, play bass... i also spin discs and scratch when the fire calls for it...

this is an unworthy arguement, if it doesnt stay civil then im closing it...
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Their instrument is made up of the diaphram and lips Which I'm sure you could not play as well as they do. I'm sure you don't want to either.
Ok... Let me clarify a little bit more... I DO consider the voice an instrument. But, I do believe that there is such a thing as a good voice and a bad voice. Now, in my opinion... And from what I have heard... There is no such thing as a rapper with a good voice. It all sounds like shit to me. Just a bunch of words bumbled together to make some pathetic story on why their life sucks or what cop they are going to kill next. That isn't called "singing" to me. That is not a "good" voice to me. It is SHIT. Now, compare a rapper's voice to Celine Dion's. Which is a little more musical than the other's? HMMM! Let me think about that one! Now, I think Celine Dion on is a stuck-up cunt with a very large silver spoon in her ass, but she actually has a "good" voice. Or Enya, listen to Enya, then listen to Tupac... Uh... Yeah... I think Enya won that match.

So, from what I see and what I hear... Once again, Yes! Rap blows dogs for quarters!
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And Errant, I am really trying to keep my calm. I'm not fighting... Well, I don't think I am... I'm just expressing my points/opinions. I don't think I've gotten too out of hand. But I will understand if you close it.
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