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Old 06-18-04   #1
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Your thoughts about Existance.

What are your thoughts about existance? your life... its purpose.. its lack of purpose.. this universe..

If a painter pours a bunch of colors in to a bucket and swirls them around with a brush.. a lot of beautiful colors form before turning in to a bland browny color...

There is an accidental perfect blend of colors for a split second which disappears with the next swirl of the paint brush.

This galaxy is probably just one of those accidental blends formed in an infinite universe.... and there may be no painter swirling any thing..

Compared to the life of the universe... this world is going to exist for a nano-nano second.... a few sparks .. and then its forgotten for ever.. Nothing matters.. nothing exists.. everythings useless and purposeless. We aren't special.. we aren't important..

Does that make any sense to any one?

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Old 06-18-04   #2
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What are your thoughts about existance? your life... its purpose.. its lack of purpose.. this universe..
Love, compassion, all that is good and permanent.

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If a painter pours a bunch of colors in to a bucket and swirls them around with a brush.. a lot of beautiful colors form before turning in to a bland browny color...

There is an accidental perfect blend of colors for a split second which disappears with the next swirl of the paint brush.

This galaxy is probably just one of those accidental blends formed in an infinite universe.... and there may be no painter swirling any thing..
That still doesn't explain the reason it happened.

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Compared to the life of the universe... this world is going to exist for a nano-nano second.... a few sparks .. and then its forgotten for ever..
There's no way you could know that.

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Nothing matters.. nothing exists.. everythings useless and purposeless. We aren't special.. we aren't important..
*kicks you in the shins*

I bet that mattered to you.
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Old 06-18-04   #3
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Love can be changed by drugs..
No one is compassionate.. you know there are starving kids in africa.. why don't you do every thing in your power to save them?
Whats your definition of good?
nothing is permenant.

Why do some people believe that god didn't have a start...
but the universe must have had a start?

The sun is billions of years old... the oldest human being is 116 years old. Human civilization has existed for about.. saaaay... 25000 years? According to the condition the world is in today do you think its going to stay on for much longer?

Nothing matters because the pain goes away.. then I die.. then you die.. then everyone dies.. it is forgotten.. it is gone... no one remembers.. it didn't even happen.
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Love can be changed by drugs..
so?

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No one is compassionate.. you know there are starving kids in africa.. why don't you do every thing in your power to save them?
lots of people are compassionate. Once I pay off my student loan (from my days when I wasn't all that compassionate) I plan on doing everything in my power to save them.

so why don't you?

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Whats your definition of good?
Ultimately, all we have are feelings, and we either feel good or bad. So I guess feeling good is my definition.

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nothing is permenant.
try telling dgg9

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Why do some people believe that god didn't have a start...
but the universe must have had a start?
Start or no start, there's still the question of why it exists.

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The sun is billions of years old... the oldest human being is 116 years old. Human civilization has existed for about.. saaaay... 25000 years? According to the condition the world is in today do you think its going to stay on for much longer?
If we destroy ourselves, it will be due entirely to our own decision to do so.

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Nothing matters because the pain goes away.. then I die.. then you die.. then everyone dies.. it is forgotten.. it is gone... no one remembers.. it didn't even happen.
*kicks you again*

Hey, it just didn't happen again!
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Old 06-19-04   #5
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Existance just is. Like the energy and matter we are composed of, simply is. But your real asking, is the meaning of that existance... And since we as the only known selfconcious species on this world seem to ask that a lot, yet find no answer... I think that the answer is found in the question itself: What do we wish the meaning to be? Our own selfconciousness defines it...

As for the universe: A spheric expanse of matter and energy expanding at lightspeed at the edges... Beyond it lays absence of both matter and energy.
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Existance just is. Like the energy and matter we are composed of, simply is.
I believe our experience of good and bad rules that theory out.

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But your real asking, is the meaning of that existance... And since we as the only known selfconcious species on this world seem to ask that a lot, yet find no answer... I think that the answer is found in the question itself: What do we wish the meaning to be? Our own selfconciousness defines it...
...that's a theory I could get behind, perhaps.

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As for the universe: A spheric expanse of matter and energy expanding at lightspeed at the edges... Beyond it lays absence of both matter and energy.
I don't think anyone can say what lays beyond.
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Old 06-20-04   #7
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I believe our experience of good and bad rules that theory out.
Why is that? Perceptions, they are nothing more. A mere facet of existance...
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...that's a theory I could get behind, perhaps.
I don't think anyone can say what lays beyond.
Since we define the universe as all that is... The logical conclusion is that outside it nothing is. If this is incorrect we need to alter our definition of "Universe"...
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Exsistance is mere random chance, daddy forgot to pull out and you're the by product of that mistake. Simple really.

As for the meaning, that's up to you to make, I don't believe in fate or that I'm being controled by some all powerful force. I control me and nothing else.

If you want to go a murder spree, that is the meaning of your exsistance, if you want to be a succsessful millioniare, that's the meaning of your esistance, if you want to be a bum, that's the meaning of your exsistance.

It's up to you to make your life matter, if you don't care if it matters, kill yourself cause your wasting human tissue, breathable air, space and time.
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Old 06-21-04   #9
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Or do not, if selfpity is your reason of existance...
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"What are your thoughts about existance? your life... its purpose.. its lack of purpose.. this universe."

i agree with abbadon on this one, we exist because for some reason there was a blip in the animal kingdom and we became walking, breathing, thinking humans...as for my life...i like to think it's to experience the realm of existance...i want to see and do all i can before i die...a life not lived i think is the only way to waste it...

the universe is too grand for even me to try an conjecture about...it's there, because it is...
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Why is that? Perceptions, they are nothing more. A mere facet of existance...
A mere facet, but what else do we have?
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A mere facet, but what else do we have?
Perception, recognition, memory, interaction...
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Life has no purpose.
Life just is.

People seek a purpose to life because they can't handle the fact that there is no purpose.
Deep down everyone knows there is no purpose...but it scares them.
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life is..........worthless
it has no meaning just a begining and an end.....
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Not many thoughts. But i'm pretty sure it's spelled "existence."
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now thats just trying to fix something thats not broken.....
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cogito ergo sum...
That's a big piece of philosophical pizza. Tasty, but empty.

so what? you exist? make it mean something, then we'll talk.
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