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Old 10-26-17   #21
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Whaaaaat? You mean America isn't the greatest place on earth that everyone is clamoring to get into because there's no freedom anywhere else in the world?
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Whaaaaat? You mean America isn't the greatest place on earth that everyone is clamoring to get into because there's no freedom anywhere else in the world?
We take 1 million immigrants per year, so yeah, your post is kind of stupid.
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Found another one, DM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoLhcdapmqg
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I watched this guy's videos on the Hobbit movies and didn't really disagree with much but had a hard time really getting interested in the same way I do with my favorite critics/deconstructionists' videos on YT.

I actually preferred this one even though the ending was a little lackluster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3g9ONrwWHo

Although it does have to be said, that like, while this whole mess is probably 25% or more D&D's fault, it's really like 50% GRRM's.
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Speaking of which have you ever watched Lindsay Ellis because I'm totes into her lately

A good example piece (I think it's also her most popular)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KznZcK7ksf4
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Although mostly this pretty compelling case about why Hunchback of Notre Dame was actually good, even one of the better Disney films.

(This actually compelled me to rewatch the film and I think it's like, reasonable?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIIWy3TZ1eI&t=1074s
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I would note though that I actually think some of her criticism of Disney's treatment of the gypsies/Romani is a little misguided. For reasons gone into partially here

Basically, within reason of course and not as a blanket thing, but it's not inherently wrong to show that people who are marginalized and oppressed resort to anti-social behavior in the face of a society they rightfully view as antagonistic. And failing to show this can actually be just as bad in a way as painting them as "deserving" persecution.
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I actually watched that whole Hercules video, even though I've never seen the movie and don't give a shit about it. She just makes a good video.

Beyond that though, by the time the golden age of 90's Disney hit, I was too old, and never really cared. I have friends who get giddy about going to Disney world/land and I seriously do not get it.
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Yeah she might be my absolute favorite media critic right now.

Oh also she rips apart Rent pretty mercilessly which is great because fuck Rent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0qfFbtIj5w
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The one thing I wish she had mentioned, just because I realized this while watching her review, is that just from the ~45 seconds we see of it, the Rent parody in the beginning of Team America: World Police ("Well I'm going to march on Washington/ Lead the fight and charge the brigades/ There's a hero inside of all of us/ I'll make them see that everyone has AIDs") manages to accomplish more in terms of a politically activist message ironically than the actual musical Rent does in it its entire runtime.
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Also, bringing this around, I was rewatching Hunchback because of that video and when Phoebus stands up to Frollo and ends up getting shot with an arrow and falling off of the bridge into the river, he's still wearing his full armor. And they show Esmerelda obviously about to dive in to rescue him. And my first thought was oh great so more ignoring of physics. But then she takes a deep breath and they show her emerging with him noticeably without the armor several moments later, and it's kind of compressed by it's clearly implied that she must have taken his armor off while he's was underwater.

And then I was like oh man the mid-tier Disney canon is now more verisimilitudinous than Game of Thrones that's how bad it's gotten.
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I liked her video on the Academy Awards as well.
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Oh I saw that.

But srsly watch the Hunchback one
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But like... I've never seen Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame. I've never seen the original Hunchback of Notre Dame. I've never read Hunchback of Notre Dame. All I know about the Hunchback of Notre Dame is that there's a hunchback, and apparently he's in Notre Dame so like... Indiana?

I don't think I'll have a frame of reference.
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But like... I've never seen Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame. I've never seen the original Hunchback of Notre Dame. I've never read Hunchback of Notre Dame. All I know about the Hunchback of Notre Dame is that there's a hunchback, and apparently he's in Notre Dame so like... Indiana?

I don't think I'll have a frame of reference.
She actually explains all of this. Also, the history of musical adaptions.
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Although if you want a like, hyper-tl:dr'd version of Hunchback heading in, watch these two songs from it:

The Bells of Notre Dame- Undoubtedly the most metal opening number Disney has ever made. Excepting maybe Muppet Treasure Island.

A Guy Like You- Uh. Not that.

To understand what she's talking about with the tonal dissonance going on.
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A lot of the film's disregard at the time, essentially runs the argument, comes from the disconnect between this. Some of the audience went, "Holy shit, this is supposed to be Disney? Look how fucking dark it is." And some went, "Holy shit, this is supposed to be Hunchback of Notre Dame? Look how fucking Disney it is."

The gargoyles are genuinely pretty annoying though. Although it helps to just think of them as purely figments of Quasimodo's imagination (the film kind of implies this but then kind of implies that they're real because it can't make up its mind.)
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Holy crap it's depressing watching you two have an actual conversation about Disney films.
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Holy crap it's depressing watching you two have an actual conversation about Disney films.
What are your thoughts on the Emperor's New Groove
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