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Old 05-14-03   #121
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how do they know what happened before christ was born? According to archeology...that would have been..billions? of years ago, what happened with the dinosaurs? I don't think anyone has ever answered that, how did the keep the lions from eating the sheep...or what about the animals that require extreme cold to exist versus something that prefers a desert environment? how were all the animals fed, elephants eat tons of food in a week...did they have a big garden? If incest is bad, why did god only create two people to make...millions, that's a lot of inbreeding...hey! i'm related to red

bah..it's late and i'm babbling, but i'd like to hear some...answers to these questions, since we have "experts" here.
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2003+ years ago. I think there was something discorved about the great flood, I vaguely remember a news broadcast about it.
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As far as the incest one, I asked that myself once. Incest wasn't "bad" until there was Law against it, which didn't happen until later.
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how do they know what happened before christ was born? According to archeology...that would have been..billions? of years ago, what happened with the dinosaurs? I don't think anyone has ever answered that, how did the keep the lions from eating the sheep...or what about the animals that require extreme cold to exist versus something that prefers a desert environment? how were all the animals fed, elephants eat tons of food in a week...did they have a big garden?
my beliefs....

before Christ was born....well if you are asking about the old testament....it was written before Christ, a lot of old testament is prophecy about Christ. and the first couple of books were written by Moses, who from God was told what to write. if you have read the Bible you will find out that Moses wasnt a very great writer or speaker, he repeats himself alot.
and most of Genisis is the history before Moses....if not all of it.I havent read that book in a while, you should read it, it is very interesting. the old testament give 109( i think that is the number) prophices that the Christ would have to fulfill.
and you can say that a man could fulfill abunch on his own, maybe...but some had to be done by others that didnt even believe He was Christ. ok im rambling also...

did they have a big garden?....if i understand you correctly....you are asking if all the animals were in the garden of eden.....i dont think that they were.
and dinosaurs.....toughy, but they werent called dinosaurs back then and i also think they were extinct, before man was created.

Gen 1:24
and God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creatures after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind, and it was so.

this is the verse for anything that lives on the earth(land) except for man. there is a bunch missing like horses, but they were still around while the Bible was being written, so they are talked about in the Bible, but dinosaurs were prolly already extinct, so there is no major mention of them.

i dont believe that man has been around for billions not even millions of years..... there is mention of monsters in the mountains....like what scientist have used to try to link us to apes.... but i believe that man, as what God created(Adem and Eve or us) has only been around for about 6,000 years.
but once again MY belief.
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i dont believe that man has been around for billions not even millions of years..... there is mention of monsters in the mountains....like what scientist have used to try to link us to apes.... but i believe that man, as what God created(Adem and Eve or us) has only been around for about 6,000 years.
but once again MY belief.
So the entire history of the Sumerians is made up????
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what about prehistoric man dated to 10,000 b.c. and now they are finding suggestions of even earlier civilizations...how is there an explanation for the cultures before god was created?

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As far as the incest one, I asked that myself once. Incest wasn't "bad" until there was Law against it, which didn't happen until later.
so people who follow the bible can pick and choose what applies to life? If it's the old testament it doesn't count, yet the new testament...where does that come from?
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2003+ years ago. I think there was something discorved about the great flood, I vaguely remember a news broadcast about it.
so than you believe in moses and the arc? *raises an eyebrow*
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I dont believe in it. Just said someone discovered there was a great flood somewhere around that time. The Noah story is just fictionalised reality just like most of history.
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every great culture in history has a great flood story, i'm sure there were many...especially after the ice age
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so people who follow the bible can pick and choose what applies to life? If it's the old testament it doesn't count, yet the new testament...where does that come from?

What I'm saying is...when there were only two people, there was only one rule: "don't eat from that tree". The Old Testament Law that applied to Moses and others didn't come until much later.
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What I'm saying is...when there were only two people, there was only one rule: "don't eat from that tree". The Old Testament Law that applied to Moses and others didn't come until much later.
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What I'm saying is...when there were only two people, there was only one rule: "don't eat from that tree". The Old Testament Law that applied to Moses and others didn't come until much later.
Do all those that break the rules of God before they are formed/revealed get a automatic pardon? I mean if some Christains believe morality came from God does that mean that with the absense of God immorality even in extremes is natural and even forgivable?
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Do all those that break the rules of God before they are formed/revealed get a automatic pardon? I mean if some Christains believe morality came from God does that mean that with the absense of God immorality even in extremes is natural and even forgivable?

There are chapters in the Old testament that detail God's Law, what his people were supposed to do and not do, and there were certain punishments for breaking things. It was a lot like the criminal codes we have today. If we made a new law today, would we find a ll the people who broken this new law in the past and round them up for punishment? I think not. God expects different things from us as the world changes. things changed a lot again when Jesus came to earth. I do believe that morality comes from God but morality is often times dependent on the situation. Is it immoral to sleep with your sister if it is the only way to perpetuate the human race?

Anyway, I'm not an expert theologian but that's the way I see it.
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Hmm I suppose we wouldnt round them up. If I was a caveman I could be a rapist and go to heaven. I missed out big time.:/
I`ve always believed that incest was only made immoral through observing the negitive effects it can have down the generations. Its the only harmful consequence I can think of from it so I rationalise it that way. I dont think repopulating the Earth would be all that worthwhile...even less so if the new humans are all tards with potentialy painful mutations.
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So the entire history of the Sumerians is made up????
Good point I find them fascinating. So are The Nommos. I believe they could have existed.
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