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Old 09-09-01   #61
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AA is not effective unless your willing to 'give your life to god' or somesuch mumbo jumbo.. Coffee and donuts to stop you from drinking.. OH and the occasional koolaid..

Been there done that.. got a 6month chip to prove it.. It didn't help me at all.. was a year later till i realized that that it was ME who could stop me from drinking.. not 12 steps, not someone on the phone, not a bible or diety, just ME..

so i agree with the fact that AA isn't worth the coffee they serve there..
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Old 09-09-01   #62
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Phew!

Good!
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wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait!

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AA is not effective unless your willing to 'give your life to god' or somesuch mumbo jumbo.. Coffee and donuts to stop you from drinking.. OH and the occasional koolaid..

Been there done that.. got a 6month chip to prove it.. It didn't help me at all.. was a year later till i realized that that it was ME who could stop me from drinking.. not 12 steps, not someone on the phone, not a bible or diety, just ME..

so i agree with the fact that AA isn't worth the coffee they serve there..
My "phew! Good!" thing was not about that! I think that youj missed the phrase "it works if you work it." You also probably missed the twlve traditions. Which include that religion is never supposed to be the topic of conversation. "our goal is solely the solution of our problems." I, myself, attend AlaTeen pretty regularly. And, though I know I'm not supposed to say this, It's asshoels like you that give AA a bad rep. You think that just because you don;t get it, or for whatever reason, you keep drinking, you think that AA is stupid. Total abstinence is the only way in which you can stop drinking.
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Now where's the fun in that?
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How do you mean "where's the fun"

Listen, who ever said that life would be fun. I'll tell ya one thing, being sober and happy some of the time is a whole hell of a lot better than drinking yourself into oblivion every night, losing your job, house and family and all the other treats addictions can do for you.
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I enjoy drinking, but only when I'm out with the girls... Otherwise I am very happy with my home.
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Sure but...

Who called you an addict? Drinking doesn't make you an alcoholic.
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YO MORON (yes you guy.. or should we say kid)

I was in it for over 6 months.. Where do you get the idea that i didn't 'get it'? For that matter, i don't remember saying it was stupid..~checks post~ Nope, didn't say stupid.. as for the ~clears throat~ 12 steps, i knew them well.. and understood them well.. But as i have a problem with organized religions (more or less) they didn't convince me, tho not for lack of attempted application of said 'traditions'. Out of the 600 or so ppl that i saw come and go in the program, aprox 400 were/are still drinking. and of the 150 'cured' (we never are), at least 125 of them 'found god' and claim him as the reason they no longer drink.. Hell, most claim they never even have the urge(like i believe that line of cow-excrement)..

AND FOR THE RECORD: I NEVER TELL ANYONE THAT IS IN AA THAT IT IS SHITE.. I RESPECT THERE CHOICE. after all, it's there life to live, not mine..

So get your head out of your arse kid. Dtigg
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Wow...I've never seen you get angry...remind me not to upset you
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Sorry

But I don't apreciate your cynicism on the matter. On top of that, in my meetings, the word "God" is almost exclusively used in the reading, not in what folks say. As for the numbers, it's a sad fact, and a cliche, but many are called, few are chosen.
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I still think the necronomicon predated Lovecraft...
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nice contradiction there Kid-person

thought you said a bit back that religion is NOT part of the traditions.. Maybe i missread it~shrugs~ So now your saying that AA IS a religious front for someone? What religion is it that leads them?

Which include that religion is never supposed to be the topic of conversation
in my meetings, the word "God" is almost exclusively used in the reading

Yep, contradiction there... So you really know your stuff there EH?

few are called? what is that suppesed to mean?
OH WAIT! NOW AA is supposed to be a convert program ? It's not supposed to help ppl?
By the Gods(Godesses) make up your mind Kid...
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Goddamn....

You are so full of your own angry shit. No fucking wonder you didn't like the program.
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No Kid, you are..

The only real problem i had with AA was the fact i don't like coffee, and they rarely had anything else to drink..

I am not angry with the people that i have met, Hell, I'm not angry with anything dealing with AA.. I am doing what i want.. STATING MY OPINION!
Am i now not allowed to do even that?

my simple curiosity now is the fact that you have not attempted to even respond to my posed questions... Will you do even that Kid?
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No, I won't answer your questions because they are ill-formed. And i never said you were angry with AA. Nor did I say that you couldn;t state your opinion. I just met your opinion wiht my own.
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I'm sorry, i'll reiterate (and use small words when i can).

you Implied that i was angry with AA when you said : You are so full of your own angry shit. No fucking wonder you didn't like the program.
That is what led me to believe that you thought i was angry with the program.
as for my posed questions..

12 related questions)
So now your saying that AA IS a religious front for someone?
What religion is it that leads them?

2: (with patial quote from you, two parts)
few are called?
what is that suppesed to mean?

3statement with 2 questions.)
OH WAIT!
NOW AA is supposed to be a convert program ?
It's not supposed to help ppl?

There now, does that help?
(yet another question)

And you are totally welcome to have yours(and post it). OH, your opinion(so it's not an ill formed statement)
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So you think Alcoholics Anonymous is full of shit?
Since when is AA a secret group? I can look them up in the fucking phone book...


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