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Old 01-10-06   #161
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Sure, unless you know a martial art that deals with grapples, like jujitsu or judo. Of course, a woman could also resort to a knee to the groin or a stiff finger to the eye. That's martial, isn't it? Ah, but is it still art?
Remember, murdering is an art so anything goes.


And Billy, if women are as weak as you deem them to be it's all the more reason for them to learn self-defense and not just carry guns. If it came down to it and a woman didn't have a gun she'd need more than the average male which means a taught discipline like Martial Arts would certainly help because it's knowledge and knowledge is a part of you that you can't take away.
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Old 01-10-06   #162
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So yeah, I guess I was opening my mouth and words were coming out, words in response to something you said.
problem there is that i never said that i did this flirting.

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I like you, surreal, but this is just stupid. If you and your girl have to set ground rules of where you can and can't go and what you can and can't do, then there are some serious issues between the two of you that will come to surface sooner or later. I can't imagine even wanting to be with someone who had even the slightest trust issue about where I was chatting online (disregarding singles hook up sites and the like).
you've taken this to be as though we're constantly watching each other and bickering about where we can and can't go.
if i do something that invites flirting, it's going to bother her, and i can frankly understand. it works both ways. that's not abnormal in the least. i'm sorry if you disagree, and i can only chalk that up to geography or something like that. i talk about this regularly with people around here and few people act like this about it.
either that or i'm doing some seriously poor communication.
whatever the case, i'm still here, which defeats the purpose of this thread. i'm not pissed at you. you just chapped my ass for a morning.
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Old 01-10-06   #163
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Remember, murdering is an art so anything goes.


And Billy, if women are as weak as you deem them to be it's all the more reason for them to learn self-defense and not just carry guns. If it came down to it and a woman didn't have a gun she'd need more than the average male which means a taught discipline like Martial Arts would certainly help because it's knowledge and knowledge is a part of you that you can't take away.
It actually woudnt help. Itd be a worthless skill, thats like saying I should learn to speak Chinese before I move to Italy.
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Sure, unless you know a martial art that deals with grapples, like jujitsu or judo. Of course, a woman could also resort to a knee to the groin or a stiff finger to the eye. That's martial, isn't it? Ah, but is it still art?
Hmm I wonder how a woman would be able to throw a 185 pound male. Even seasoned veteran weight lifting women dont lift that much with thier backs or flexers. Which are the muscles used for throwing. If you think a woman can grapple better than a grown man then youre either living with 300 pound 7 foot tall women or need to stop being a wussy.
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Technique is far more important in grappling than strength. You should know this Billy.
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Old 01-10-06   #166
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Actually both are important, which is probably why wrestlers have weight divisions.
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Old 01-11-06   #167
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[insert scene - raiders of the lost ark]

indiana jones is confronted by a saber wielding mad arab spinning them doing wierd shit and generally looking menacing.

*draws pistol, shoots*

*arab falls over dead*

*walks away unimpressed*

[end scene]

tipping the odds? yeah. damn straight.

ok so yeah there are lots of other things that could be said but still, this is a funny example.
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Old 01-11-06   #168
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i'm not pissed at you. you just chapped my ass for a morning.
*hands you some ass chapstik*
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Old 01-11-06   #169
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Hmm I wonder how a woman would be able to throw a 185 pound male. Even seasoned veteran weight lifting women dont lift that much with thier backs or flexers. Which are the muscles used for throwing. If you think a woman can grapple better than a grown man then youre either living with 300 pound 7 foot tall women or need to stop being a wussy.
If grappling/wrestling were all about muscle mass, there wouldn't be weight divisions in wrestling. It's also about strength, balance, and presence of mind. Plus, What you're saying is like saying that its the boxer who punches hardest who wins the match. If that were the case, Tyson would still be champ... Then you also have thing like holds and locks, pressure points, that require training and not just muscle.
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I feel this way on DF...a lot.
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If grappling/wrestling were all about muscle mass, there wouldn't be weight divisions in wrestling. It's also about strength, balance, and presence of mind. Plus, What you're saying is like saying that its the boxer who punches hardest who wins the match. If that were the case, Tyson would still be champ... Then you also have thing like holds and locks, pressure points, that require training and not just muscle.
Yes because ya know when someone is throwing pressure on a specific join I am just sitting there watching.

And Wrestling and grapling IS about weight and mass, THAT is why there ARE weight divisions. You arent going to see a 6 foot 5 250 pounder squaring off with a guy who is 5 foot 5 and 140 pounds. Why? Because it isnt a fair fight.

By the way Tyson lost because he took too many hard shots to the head, not because he had a weak fighting style.

By the way You know that George Forman fucked people up in the ring and had the shittiest of styles right? But he punched so hard he was able to knock the champ out.

Inevitably youll bring up Ali, whom was about the same size as him. Just faster (a sign of less fat and tighter muscles)
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You arent going to see a 6 foot 5 250 pounder squaring off with a guy who is 5 foot 5 and 140 pounds. Why? Because it isnt a fair fight.
Actually I seen some UFC matches like that where the little guy won.

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By the way Tyson lost because he took too many hard shots to the head, not because he had a weak fighting style.
...then one is left wondering why he took too many hard shots to the head.[/quote]
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A well trained woman who is physically fit could probably defend herself against an average street thug, no matter what Billy might like to believe. Still, if the thug has a gun, the woman be fucked.
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Actually I seen some UFC matches like that where the little guy won.



...then one is left wondering why he took too many hard shots to the head.
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Maybe it was all the drugs and seditives he had been taking. Ya know that and the fact that Don King was ripping him off for millions.
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A well trained woman who is physically fit could probably defend herself against an average street thug, no matter what Billy might like to believe. Still, if the thug has a gun, the woman be fucked.
Or if he has a knife, or a ring of keys or is really angry...
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Old 11-10-06   #176
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So i have to ask.. since your last post was, like, yesterday...

what became of this??
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I stopped by, read some posts on the politics, and had to catch up a bit.
I still have old friends to spy on too (I guess), and I'd like to see fr0g throw another fit when I lose interest in the political discussions.

Note the long span of time between my recent posts and those previous. I just don't need to be regularly saturated in the stuff that is discussed on here. Doesn't mean this place is forbidden.

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