[Loki96x]

Ok, ok... Let me say somethign else before someone gets mad...

I do believe there is actaully rap out there that is good. It's got good music, a good voice, and good lyrics... But I find it very, very, very, very, very, very rare. That's why I say "rap blows dogs for quarters". I'm just making that statement about rap from my overall view of that class of music. And another thing, when I made that statement about Tupac, I didn't mean that his songs and stuff aren't good... I was making that statement based on his voice. I just don't see him having a very good voice. But, of course, everyone's opinion is different. I think Stevie Nicks has an annoying voice, but my Mom loves her voice. It's different for everyone, I suppose.

Anyways... I'm about tired of clarifying myself... I think I'll smoke a cigarette.

[SinisterHowl]

First of all you have to stop using Tupac as a reference to rap Take Gwen Stefani for instance...she raps and it sounds pretty. Then you've got that one chick...damn if I know her name but she's looney as they come and her stuff is so funky and looney I love it. Then there are some guys with voices that are just so charactaristic and they are not in fact rapping about cops or drugs or crap but...life just like we all do here everyday. I'm into a little bit of everything...I even dig some John Prine when I'm way fucking tired and spent. I try to find the best of everything. I don't wanna talk about this anymore though...it's pretty pointless when dealing with a die hard metal head like yourself So do you play an instrument Lok? I can play a flute rather well and I like to fiddle.

[errantrogue]

wyclef jean... hell, anything by the fugees crew... i remember seein them in atlanta... one of the only pale faces there... the ONLY suit there (had to go straight from work)... being stopped by a coupla jagoffs wearing colors... and i explained... and they agreed... and we grooved together... but i declined the colts (how they snuck those in i dont wanna know)

music really does make a differance

[Loki96x]

Instruments I play are Saprano, Alto, Tenor, and Baritone Saxophone... The keys are all pretty much the same, but when reading the music is when it changes between each instrument. And I also can play Bass Guitar.

And I'm not just a die-hard metal fan, Sinister. I listen to all sorts of music, from classic rock to metal, and classical to techno. Rap has just never been something I liked, Nothing about it has ever interested me. I can critisize Metal or any other kind of music just as much as I do Rap. Every kind of music has it's shit-bands and one-hit wonders.

[Archangel]

Originally posted by Loki96x


Ok... Let me clarify a little bit more... I DO consider the voice an instrument. But, I do believe that there is such a thing as a good voice and a bad voice. Now, in my opinion... And from what I have heard... There is no such thing as a rapper with a good voice. It all sounds like shit to me. Just a bunch of words bumbled together to make some pathetic story on why their life sucks or what cop they are going to kill next. That isn't called "singing" to me. That is not a "good" voice to me. It is SHIT. Now, compare a rapper's voice to Celine Dion's. Which is a little more musical than the other's? HMMM! Let me think about that one! Now, I think Celine Dion on is a stuck-up cunt with a very large silver spoon in her ass, but she actually has a "good" voice. Or Enya, listen to Enya, then listen to Tupac... Uh... Yeah... I think Enya won that match.

So, from what I see and what I hear... Once again, Yes! Rap blows dogs for quarters!

I agree with you!!!! Rap artists suck so much ass. It does not take "INSANE" talent as The Necromancer said..... Take DMX for example...his new song about the system and jail and whatever..... What the FUCK!!!! THAT did NOT take much skill to come out with...... Seems a bunch of half assed retarded poetry ANYONE could have come out with......Ok, maybe the lyrics aren't that bad, but its his VOICE!!! MY GOD.....He is basically TALKING or whatever NOT doing anything that would require SKILL.....
The ONLY Rap I enjoy is in R&B like Craig David..Where he geniously mixes it with his Singing..Now THATS TALENT!!!!