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Old 10-28-08   #41
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My Grandfather is Swedish. He came over on a boat from Sweden when he was a young teenager and worked, was naturalised, fought in the war and married here. He married a Welsh woman with whom he had three daughters.

They are British. They were born here, have British only passports, are registered on the Census as British and white and each of their children are British too. Myself, my mother, her sisters and all of my cousins hold British Passports and are registered as British citizens and nationals and have British Nationality. We are, British.

If a child is born in a country, isn't their birth registered there? That'd make them a British, chinese, American, Irish, Swedish or Icelandic or whatever national. Citizen. Person. I seem to recollect this being the way it goes.
In terms of legality perhaps, but that doesn't mean thats what someone is. You are Swedish and Welsh apparently. DO you think you would be Chinese if your Grandparents moved to China and raised you there? The answer is no, you would still be British or English or Welsh or whatever you are. The same way my girlfriend is Chinese even though she is an AMerican citizen.
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DO you think you would be Chinese if your Grandparents moved to China and raised you there? The answer is no, you would still be British or English or Welsh or whatever you are. The same way my girlfriend is Chinese even though she is an AMerican citizen.
If I was BORN in China, yes I would be. The answer is YES.

You're talking as if I EMIGRATED to China.

My Grandfather is Swedish. My Mother and Myself are British. My mother and I are of Swedish and Welsh Descent. Not birth.
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If I was BORN in China, yes I would be. The answer is YES.

You're talking as if I EMIGRATED to China.

My Grandfather is Swedish. My Mother and Myself are British. My mother and I are of Swedish and Welsh Descent. Not birth.
If you were born in China as you are you wouldn't be Chinese, sorry. If I was born in England I wouldn't be English. My passport might say I was a British subject but I wouldn't be English. Are people in Ireland British too? Are Scots Brits?
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Erm, yeah.

Great Britain (The United Kingdom) covers England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

I'm an English Brit.

There are Scottish Brits, Welsh Brits, and NI Brits.

If you were born here, You'd be an English Brit.
You might be of Irish descent, but you'd be an English Brit.


Whereabouts in Ireland were your ancestors from?
Northern Ireland or The Republic of Ireland?
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Erm, yeah.

Great Britain (The United Kingdom) covers England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

I'm an English Brit.

There are Scottish Brits, Welsh Brits, and NI Brits.

If you were born here, You'd be an English Brit.
You might be of Irish descent, but you'd be an English Brit.


Whereabouts in Ireland were your ancestors from?
Northern Ireland or The Republic of Ireland?
If I was born there I wouldn't be English, i might be a British subject but I would still retain my own nationality/ancestry. And my family is form county cork. Like if I was born in China i would forever be lao wai even if I was born and raised there.
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If I was born there I wouldn't be English, i might be a British subject but I would still retain my own nationality/ancestry. And my family is form county cork. Like if I was born in China i would forever be lao wai even if I was born and raised there.
I'm confused as to what the hell you're on about...

You talk as if you can be born in two places...
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I'm confused as to what the hell you're on about...

You talk as if you can be born in two places...
it boils down to you bring wrong basically. If my family is from say Nigeria and they move to London and then give birth to me, I am Nigerian, I may be a British subject, but im Nigerian. I wouldnt be an Englishman, I wouldnt be a real Brit either.

Just like If I was born in China and my family are Irish Americans, I would still be an Irish person living in China. Which might explain why a friend of my girlfriends family who is a white man who was literally born and raised in China is NOT chinese, not according to him and not according to Chinese people who know him, even though he has never lived anywhere else. He is Lao Wai, and NOT Zhong Guo Ren.
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I'm pure New England, we are not yokels, we are the most upper crust better than thou ivy league elitists on earth. Even more so than you English homos!
I'll have you know that us brits invented you loops! Remember that you lot all come from here, you left the UK because you lot are crusty prudes and didn't like the fact that England rocks out with its cock out!

Yeah, England is where the air is crisp! This small island can take on the world and win!
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I'll have you know that us brits invented you loops! Remember that you lot all come from here, you left the UK because you lot are crusty prudes and didn't like the fact that England rocks out with its cock out!

Yeah, England is where the air is crisp! This small island can take on the world and win!
We left because you broke as beotches didnt mind being ruled by a king, so we left and started a new country where we could make crazy money! And besides yea yeah you invented us but my ancestors invented you! LONG LIVE ROME!
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We left because you broke as beotches didnt mind being ruled by a king, so we left and started a new country where we could make crazy money! And besides yea yeah you invented us but my ancestors invented you! LONG LIVE ROME!
Those feckin' romans didn't invent some of us... I'll have you know that we were mint and awesome before those romans started dragging their knuckles over here! We hunted and gathered and had huts and shit!

And whats this about us being broke!?! You lot probably stole all our money! You lot were probably on yer way to Austrailia for stealing the UK's money and hit america by mistake!

We made you beeeeeeoooootches! Remember that shit!
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And besides yea yeah you invented us but my ancestors invented you! LONG LIVE ROME!
Hang on, I thought you were Irish...
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Hang on, I thought you were Irish...
I dont need to hang on, i wrote out before what my bloodline was, read.
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You read in here... Robert Boyle was an irishman who is considered the father of chemistry, and he has the same last name as me! We're probably in the same bloodline! And you'll also read that more irish people live in the united states, than in Ireland!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_people

Not to say it's solid proof that I am any more Irish than American, but I say it means I am at least partially Irish.
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you see a lot of people in McDonalds eh?
It's like a fucking zoo in there, there's peeps from zimbabwe to Palestine and back to fucking Tokyo.
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Hey you know, even mcdonald is an irish name...
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After further reconsideration I have decided that there is some serious truth behind what Tozzy is saying. Do Mexicans not differ in many ways than their spaniard ancestors? I think it would be incorrect to say that Canadians are in all aspects alike to their French ancestors. We are a product of our surroundings, not to say that deep down our heritage doesn't affect our personality and our physical features, but does not the people around us and our mode of living affect who we are just as much? Quite possibly so. There is no definite answer to the question we have, but it would be ignorant not to consider both sides of the argument valid.
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