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Old 08-27-02   #721
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worship of a horned god has been dated to 10,000 bc in france!
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Old 08-28-02   #722
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The name Christianity is only 2000 years old, but the religion goes back much farther.
When were the Jews called Jews?
I'll be posting a thread about the history of the Christian God soon. Within the next few days, i imagine. I think you will find it interesting.
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Old 08-29-02   #723
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I'll be posting a thread about the history of the Christian God soon. Within the next few days, i imagine. I think you will find it interesting.
I can't wait.
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Old 08-29-02   #724
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One of the more interesting concepts of the Islamic faith is their veneration of Jesus.

Not as the son of god, but a misunderstood prophet. A paveway for Mohammed.

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Old 09-26-02   #725
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My family is christian, catholic. I have been drifting farther and farther away from believing in god for various reasons.
1) have you never felt that as soon as you enter a church, and hear everyone chanting his name, or prayers, that you are in a cult? dont get me wrong, cults dont have to be a bad thing, but when i sit there, and listen to everyone repeating the same thing over and over inusion, it really unnerves me.
2)whos to say the bible wasnt made up by someone a long time ago who either thought it was a good joke, and it got out of hand. or by someone who was psychotic/skitzo/depressed/insane etc? no one is because thats another thing that no one can truly prove. there really and truly is nothing that we as ourselves in this time, or ever, will be able to figure out. the only way that i can think of is going back in time.
something that just struck me is Mary. pretend that the immaculate conception actualy happened and she wasnt raped or didnt give in and have sex with "god". that she actualy did give birth without needing sperm. now, and even back then, does this sound normal/real/not pretend...? i mean its deffinately another thing that turns me away from the christian religion all in itself.
4)my mother. after my brother killed himself my mom was a basket case. she didnt understand why god had let everyone down and had let my brother die. why he would do this to her and everyone that "he" supposedly loved. she turned away from "god" all together. maybe this was another reason why i dont trust god, maybe its just that i find the whole thing totaly and completely unbelieveable.
5)heres my view on things.
i believe that god and jesus and everything is real. somewhere/something inside of me does. but it does not mean that i am going to drop everything to worship him, or talk to the guy. i believe that everyone has there own god or goddess that is right for them. truly, inside of me, i believe that every god and goddess that everyone in this world has come to believe is real, somewhere out there. i beleive there is not one god. i believe that there are many gods and goddess'. every religion has its own twist on things, and many more modern religions are trying to make theirs sound the most believable so they can get as many people as possible to believe in theirs and theirs only. seems like one big stressful/confusing/pointless mess to me.


for anyone who took the time to read that, i thank you. it was a big weight off of my shoulders to sit here and take time out of my day to write this down and hope that someone is going to read it and at least somewhat understand what i am trying to say and get at. it means a lot to me to get this out of my head and into the open. i am not really able to express myself as well in person, so if i get this amount of time, and my head is working right, i can sit down at type forver about anything that bothers me, and the chatholic religion is something that has been bothering me for a long time now.


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KUDO'S to you Vampire Dust.. take your belief and go with it.. If it works for you, you are lucky. Not many people can state there beliefs in such an obvious intelligble manner. And include basic definitions..!!!! again, KUDO'S!!!!

But a good way to continue this thread would be to have everyone disect your 3rd part..
If Mary was a virgin at conception and birth. What problems did the hymen cause at birth? I do believe that it would have been one hell of a bloody, messy birth.. And in those days, no medicine to speakof.. It almost amazes me that she didn't die in childbirth!!
K, Who's gonna run with this one?
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Old 09-27-02   #726
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In response to DUs'ts points

1) I've a similar background Strict Irish R.C. family. The fact that everyhting has to be done at a specifici time and the whole thing is about self degredation and repeated chanitng. It is very like some satanic rituals I've hear dof. It's also A lot like some rituals of White witches too. It's as pertinant as they are.

2) I've posted a few times how I beleive that Jesus did have a few good ideas but his followers were not bright enough to see them and misinterpretted them only to have them re-used and modified to fit inot the ROman-Empires Greco-roman religious framework to make converting the empire easier.

Think about Invitro Fertilisation. Technically she could still be a virgin and give birth....Modren Science only reinforces that myth it doesnt dispell it

4) Why does god punish the faithful and reward the unfaithful? Why do some of the faithful have all the luck and some none. Why would he apply different levels of testing faith to the faithful? Inconsistancies which imply that if god exists he isn't fair.

5) Look into humanism, it teaches you about self-strength and also about looking at other religions to take and use the aspects of their religions which would benefit the self through the greater good.

The Catholic religion has been doing something for Nearly 2000 year which has bothered me.

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Old 07-16-03   #727
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Hello people.

How is anybody? Long time no see. Just wanted to drop by for a second and say hi to everyone. God bless you all.

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Hello people.

How is anybody? Long time no see. Just wanted to drop by for a second and say hi to everyone. God bless you all.

Sincerely,
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hey Sam.... how are you doing.... and long time no post

hopefully everything is well with you..... you should stop by more often.....
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Old 07-17-03   #730
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SAM!!!!!!!! good to see your still existing!! hope that you and the family are doing well these days..

Please do stop by more often..
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Old 08-02-05   #731
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I just had to bump this thread...
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Old 08-09-05   #732
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well, he was against you ya know...
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