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WSJ: Saddam's Files Show 'Direct' 9/11 Link - 05-30-04

WSJ: Saddam's Files Show 'Direct' 9/11 Link

Newly uncovered files examined by U.S. military investigators in Baghdad show what is being described as "a direct link" between Saddam Hussein's elite Fedayeen military unit and the terrorist attacks on America on Sept. 11, 2001.

Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, who attended a January 2000 al-Qaida summit in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, where the 9/11 attacks were planned, is listed among the officers on three Fedayeen rosters reviewed by U.S. probers, the Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday.

"Our government sources, who have seen translations of the documents, say Shakir is listed with the rank of Lieutenant-Colonel," the paper said.

Though the Journal doesn't mention it, Saddam's Fedayeen has been identified in previous reports as the group that conducted 9/11-style hijack training drills on a parked Boeing 707 airliner at the south Baghdad terrorist camp Salman Pak.

In a post obtained through Saddam's Mukhabarat intelligence service, Shakir was stationed at the Iraqi Embassy in Kuala Lumpur at the time of the 9/11 planning session.

Also in attendance were 9/11 hijackers Khalid al Midhar and Nawaz al Hamzi, who were piloting American Airlines Flight 77 when it crashed into the Pentagon.

Ramzi bin al Shibh, the operational planner of the 9/11 attacks, and Tawfiz al Atash, a high-ranking Osama bin Laden lieutenant and mastermind of the USS Cole bombing, were also at the meeting, the Journal said.

When Shakir was arrested in Qatar on Sept. 17, 2001, he was carrying phone numbers of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers' safe houses and contacts, as well as information relating to Operation Bojinka, a plot devised by trade center bomber Ramzi Yousef that became the blueprint for the 9/11 attacks.

The Qataris released Shakir after a brief detention and he fled to Jordan, where he was re-arrested. Inexplicably, however, the CIA signed off on his release after Amnesty International complained.

"He was last seen heading home to Baghdad," the Journal says.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/...27/100047.shtml


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"Our government sources, who have seen translations of the documents, say Shakir is listed with the rank of Lieutenant-Colonel,"

"He was last seen heading home to Baghdad,"

Lemme guess: These are the same guys that say mobile biochem labs, and WMD caches that now seem to have vanished?


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"Our government sources, who have seen translations of the documents, say Shakir is listed with the rank of Lieutenant-Colonel,"

"He was last seen heading home to Baghdad,"

Lemme guess: These are the same guys that say mobile biochem labs, and WMD caches that now seem to have vanished?


We have found WMDs. Bush was right.



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So, you posted two threads on the SAME subject. (that one guy with the same name might have a connection to Al Qaeda... Some americans have connections to Al Qaeda. Let's ask France to liberate us!


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So, you posted two threads on the SAME subject. (that one guy with the same name might have a connection to Al Qaeda... Some americans have connections to Al Qaeda. Let's ask France to liberate us!


Yep, Bush has been proven right, and will be re-elected in a landslide now.



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Rofl, you truly are an imbecile.


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Rofl, you truly are an imbecile.

And you are my student.



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:boggle: I haven't read a comment THAT stupid in this forum since JLB left. Thanks!


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We have found WMDs. Bush was right.
Really... WHERE ?

Or are you just engaging in more fanatical ideological ranting without actually thinking about WHAT your saying...

so please.. WHERE ARE THE WMD's?
(or are WE still proving YOU wrong?)


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Really... WHERE ?

Or are you just engaging in more fanatical ideological ranting without actually thinking about WHAT your saying...

so please.. WHERE ARE THE WMD's?
(or are WE still proving YOU wrong?)

Sarin is a WMD.

We found some.

Case closed.

You lose.



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WSJ: Saddam's Files Show 'Direct' 9/11 Link

Bush was right all along!
You appear a "little" misguided...

Quote:
"We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the 11 September attacks"

- US President George Bush
18 Sept, 2003

Refer: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3118262.stm


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You appear a "little" misguided...


He said that before he had evidence. Now he has some.

Duh!!



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He said that before he had evidence. Now he has some.
So then, where is this EVIDENCE, GEORGE has (personally) referred to?

in case u cant read what u posted...
Quote:
Newly uncovered files examined by U.S. military investigators in Baghdad show what is being described as "a direct link" between Saddam Hussein's elite Fedayeen military unit and the terrorist attacks on America on Sept. 11, 2001.

Refer: WSJ: Saddam's Files Show 'Direct' 9/11 Link
so "where" did George say he has "evidence" ??
Duh!! ... cant even read what u posted.

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Sarin is a WMD.

We found some.
Where ???
Do you have links ?


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So then, where is this EVIDENCE, GEORGE has (personally) referred to?

in case u cant read what u posted...


so "where" did George say he has "evidence" ??
Duh!! ... cant even read what u posted.



Where ???
Do you have links ?


There you go, read and weap:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1110210.htm

http://www.krcg.com/news/news_detail...ry_number=7532

straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/world/ story/0,4386,251511,00.html



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A shell used by insurgents more than likely more than 10 years old and by all accounts (by US Military in Iraq, nonetheless) is more than likely an insignificant find. Wow. If this is where you're reaching on the WMDs that supposedly were such a threat to the United States that 800 US soldiers had to die, I have a bridge to sell you.


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A shell used by insurgents more than likely more than 10 years old and by all accounts (by US Military in Iraq, nonetheless) is more than likely an insignificant find. Wow. If this is where you're reaching on the WMDs that supposedly were such a threat to the United States that 800 US soldiers had to die, I have a bridge to sell you.


That shell was illegal, and could kill 10 thousand people at one time.

Bush has been proven right.



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A shell used by insurgents more than likely more than 10 years old and by all accounts (by US Military in Iraq, nonetheless) is more than likely an insignificant find. Wow. If this is where you're reaching on the WMDs that supposedly were such a threat to the United States that 800 US soldiers had to die, I have a bridge to sell you.
If the "inspections" that Blix was conducting had been working, that shell would have been destroyed years ago.

Isn't this shell evidence of the ineffectiveness of these un inspections?


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That shell was illegal, and could kill 10 thousand people at one time.
I think thats an exaggeration, if I ever heard one...

didn't you read the article yourself?
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...The chief military spokesman in Iraq says "a very small" amount of sarin was released and two soldiers suffered minor injuries.

Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt says he believes the insurgents who rigged the shell as a bomb didn't know it contained sarin. Many of the materials used for roadside bombs are believed to have been looted from arsenals after the collapse of Saddam Hussein's regime in April 2003.

...But Kimmitt says very little of the nerve agent can be dispersed in a device such as a roadside bomb.

Refer: http://www.krcg.com/news/news_detail...ry_number=7532
I guess that explains WHY you didn't directly quote the article yourself.

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Bush has been proven right.
Obviously Bush was a 'chicken-shit' - if he thought "a very small amount" of Sarin, in a road-side bomb, possed an "imminent" threat to the US.


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