Your perception of your own beauty can affect personality a lot.

Yes, it can.

From the things you say I can deduce that youre incredibly ugly.

Actually the tirade against personal appearences and clenliness is what made me say that. I already know youre ugly so I can imagine taking a regular shower and flossing arent high up on your daily priority list.

(Re:Wicked) Subtlety doesn't commune with the masses and unfortunately written sarcasm isn't accompanied by an arched eyebrow.

Well, there you go Billy, the perspective of the ugly is just as relevant in this debate isn't it? I'm not sure how you equate ugly with any personal hygiene issue however I can assure you at least my electric tooth brush/floss and shower do get regular workouts. Funny thing is though, no matter what you look like Billy you will never be an attractive person.

I am sure many women and personal friends of mine would tell you otherwise. Again just something ugly people have been telling themselves to keep themselves happy. THat the are somehow better people because they are ugly...sorry kid, you were lied to.

Bottom line: YOU were the one that insinuated only unattractive people are capable of doing nice things for others. That's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

And Billy's really hot. I cannot tell a lie.

Its just that old yarn that ugly people tell themselves, that they are somehow better mentally if they cant be better physically. It doesnt occur to these twisted people that someone can be a good person and be good looking too... to them admitting that would be like saying that thier entire self esteem structure is based on a sham. But hey... it is.

No, YOU said 'ONLY unattractive people are capable of doing nice things', I corrected that statement, so it's also the most idiotic thing you've ever said.....oh Christ, what is the point, in a minute you'll be accusing me of having weapons of mass destruction. You hear what you want to hear, you interpret as you will and in the end you learn nothing and stay ignorant.

It is quite obvious that you find Billy attractive, you should get together, Heather and Heather.

Bottom line: the thing you're really pissed off about (which is the only personal thing you could have taken umbrage of) is the fact that I made a joke about Americans and we all know you guys can't laugh at yourselves.

Well I'm happy for you that you are so very beautiful Billy, because if you consider that physical beauty is such a valued commodity then I'm quite happy to see things differently. I don't know what you're going to do when your beauty fades though........ Hang on, I'm just making a trip to the local 'Meals on Wheels' to check out the model material.
Nothing I feel was told to me, I've learned by observation. Yeah, I do believe people who are not considered beautiful (in general) have more insight just as I believe parents of children (in general) have and that the rich (in general) are stingier then the poor and that there is no black and white, only grey.(There you go, other things we won't agree upon).

Here's one reson I believe as I do.......

'The person who is disfigured must learn that people who know him and are around him a lot, actually "forget" that he is scarred. They don't "see" the scars. They see the same person they know and love. That old saying that "beauty is skin deep" is true and we all know it. I've known some girls who have been really gorgeous, but to me they weren't even pretty because they were not nice people. I've known others who were not very pretty at all but to me, and others who knew them, they were among the most beautiful people I've known. It's who you are, not what you look like that makes you a worthwhile person.' http://members.aol.com/jeri10/Burns.html


"Sweet are the uses of adversity,
Which like the toad, ugly and venomous,
Wears yet a precious jewel in his head;
And this our life, exempt from public haunt,
Finds tongues in trees, books in the running brooks,
Sermons in stones and good in every thing."
Shakespeare
As You Like It
Act II, Scene I

This thread won't allow me to show you any pictures, but I think you get the idea.

Oh reallllllllllly.

That's like me saying, "In my experience, Canadians smell way worse than Americans."

We cant, we are too busy bailing everyones asses out of the fire and policing the world to keep the Eurotrash safe. Youre welcome by the way.

See? standard ugly man complex, beautiful people MUST be stupid, that way you feel better about yourself. Yeah you know us stupid beautiful people... just using our look to get by, hell I dont even work I just have old ladies give me things... too bad I am not a pinnicle of mental might like you, I fear the d ay I grow old and wrinkled... lol is that what you want to hear? Grow up, beautiful doesnt = dumb and ugly doesnt = smart or nice.. in fact my experience has been the opposite. Cry more newb.

Wait a sec...

case closed.

'In my experience' does not equate to 'everybody' you are mistaken if you took it as such. What more can I say.
If, as you suggested, you were to state 'In my experience Canadians smell worse than Americans' I would assume you had met some pretty smelly Canadians not that all Canadians were smelly.

You mean you're too busy putting everyones asses in the fire.....hmmm...Australia is in Europe, I don't think I'll even bother going there, it's not worth it.
I didn't come up with the idea of this thread, I was just going to enjoy what I thought would be an intersting exchange of thoughts, and maybe learn something. You want to debase it by personal attacks, go for it mate, I don't have enough respect for you for it to offend me. And as I'd already accepted your opinion of my appearance (anybody can view my profile) I don't really see the relevants of posting my pic. Now if you'd bothered to read or post a pic of child burn victims and accident survivors you'd have some credibility.