people who hate, go to hell too billy.

Dyn: Well, remember, one of the core beliefs of many monotheists (myself included) is the everpresence of God. On the one hand, there are those that belive that God's everpresence is a sort of separate, observational, or controlling presence. I think of it as a coterminous relationship. God and nature are the same. God made the rules of nature because God wanted nature to be that way. It's humans that try to defy it.

Billy & Shadow: Oh, give me a break, you industrialized sissies. I ain't saying I could handle a life of violence and primitive grief, but you sure as shit couldn't. You drive your car to work. You sip coffe. We watch tv and wonder if they'll cancel our favorite shows. Don't try to act all tough like you want a bitter, short, brutal life.

I'm just curious why you included me in there...I was responding to Billy, not you. You know, if you were going to make a return, you could at least have waited until your skin had thickened up and you weren't so defensive.

I'm not being defensive, I'm teasing. Because you're goofy.

I am not Goofy. If anyone should be Goofy, it's Billy. If I can't be Mickey, I should at least be Donald...or at least Pluto.

you're too mindfully entertaining to be any of them.

Screw that. Donald's cool, but I wanna be one of those dancing shrooms from Fantasia.

Gotta have the downs to know the ups... The Downs and ups make us what we are ..Trust me Dyn's suffers in her own ways LOL !!

that's the price for a life filled with vice.

maybe the seven sins are on to something?

I LOVE vices!

Otherwise, I could totally be a saint.

I mean, seriously, the only reason I have a criminal record is because I can be a bit of a hedonist at times. (Minor in possession of alcohol, possesion of marijuana, more possession of marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to sell (Got dropped down to another possession), speeding/no insurance tickets).

Mostly given up on the pot - don't buy it, might do it a few times a year at a party if a friend offers, but still a bit of a serious binge drinker at times.

I guess that's the only real way I could be considered less than a "good" person.

Thats very similar to me... minus the charges.

i grew up in clumsy balls, sort of a town favorite, i never got an mip...

and learned my lesson for the possession charge, i'll never camp on forest service property in a no camp/no fire zone with a keg and a bunch of friends again...

the rangers were nice after interrogating me, complimented my friend who tossed the keg on his shoulder and ran, asked my mom out for coffee and gave me the confiscated beer with a "happy birthday"

that was my twenty first birthday...two for one and free drinks at the sportsmen the rest of the day, made up for it.

That...is....awesome!

I never have cool luck like that.

One time we pissed off some cops really good out at Ashley lake, but all they did was try to find us in the woods with a spotlight, threaten to tow our car, then leave when they couldn't find us.

We were totally beer ninjas.

Speaking of vices, any of you ever read Vice magazine? It's a free mag and I think a lot of you guys would relate not trying to convert you or anything, just some adVICE....

not luck, small town kalispell and columbia falls; ten years ago.

now they're all gone or raising their own kids, most grew into being good people, but there's a few...

That's good. I'm more of a Looney Tunes man anyway.

as long as you're not tweety or bugs bunny, you're okay in my book.

What's wrong with Bugs? He's the trickster incarnate, and gets a lot more tail than Daffy ever will.