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Will we see an increase in the number of Atheists ? - 08-19-06

With the recent negative opinion of religions, will we see the increase in the number of atheists and how will this affect the world and the politics among various nations ?
  
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08-20-06

I think there will be a bigger divided between fanatics and athiests and not much in between.


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08-20-06

I should hope so. It's time common sense broke through to the Western world (even if it will not break through to the rest of the world). It's time people take responsibility into their own hands instead of throwing it all into the lap of some vague superior being.
Scratching religion out of the human mind totally sure would make some things highly impropable. And most of them are bad. Really bad.
Or can I not say such things on this site, with all these banners of 'God this' and 'God that' appearing all over most annoyingly?
  
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08-21-06

Common sense, well that is your opinion ;-)

For me common sense is realising that you can be religious and not push your beliefs onto others.
For me common sense is realising you can be religious and know that only you are responsible for your own actions (why else did we get free will...if we were puppets on strings there would be no challenge in choosing "good" over "bad")
For me common sense is respecting other peoples take on life (be it religious or not religious)


More athiests? Maybe, I have no idea.
It's just sad that people generalise religious people, not all are extremists, warhungry, or pushy.


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08-21-06

define athiest

dying, whats interesting is that most religion is about taking responsibilty, your comments are trendy though


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08-21-06

very trendy...


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08-22-06

Atheist being non-religious. No self-proclaimed spokesmen of god to tell you how to live. It is especially the mass-concept of religion that I find threatening. Yes, it does start wars (although, in favor of christians, they did make huge donations for non-christian countries when a certain natural disaster took place - something I heard a survivor point out on tellie) and it gives christians, among people, a false sense of superiority and people, among animals, a false sens of superiority. Just take the following line:
God made man in his example.
I rest my case.
  
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08-22-06

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With the recent negative opinion of religions, will we see the increase in the number of atheists and how will this affect the world and the politics among various nations ?
As any 1st world country progresses you see less need for religion, but a rise in spiritual crap. I dont think youll see more athiests, but less people involved with organized religion.
  
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I should hope so. It's time common sense broke through to the Western world (even if it will not break through to the rest of the world). It's time people take responsibility into their own hands instead of throwing it all into the lap of some vague superior being.
Scratching religion out of the human mind totally sure would make some things highly impropable. And most of them are bad. Really bad.
Or can I not say such things on this site, with all these banners of 'God this' and 'God that' appearing all over most annoyingly?
Yes, because faith is all about throwing responsibility into gods hands, I think that was the second commandment right? Dumbass.
  
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Atheist being non-religious. No self-proclaimed spokesmen of god to tell you how to live. It is especially the mass-concept of religion that I find threatening. Yes, it does start wars (although, in favor of christians, they did make huge donations for non-christian countries when a certain natural disaster took place - something I heard a survivor point out on tellie) and it gives christians, among people, a false sense of superiority and people, among animals, a false sens of superiority. Just take the following line:
God made man in his example.
I rest my case.
More people have been murdered under athiest regiemes than religious ones. So take your bullshit and get to hiking. By the way, man is superior to animals, fucking deal with it, the minute a deer or rabbit can form a language and tell me not to eat it I will consider it on somewhat equal footing.
  
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08-22-06

Atheits, lately, are those that need and want to deny the Christianity...but my oppinion is that nobody can be a convinced atheist...because soul, mind and spirit needs something to explain the unknown and the things we dont understand compeltly and we cant demonstrate in other ways...at least you cannot confirm yourself as an atheist if you havent tried to study any other religions, as many as possible, so you can search and find if there are others in which you could find your own conceptions...


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08-22-06

One can believe in the metaphysical and be an athiest. Or perhaps I'm not clear on the definition of an atheist? I thought an atheist was someone who simply does not believe in God or other dieties. Where does that state that one does not believe in the metaphysical (i.e., soul, mind, spirit)? I for one don't really believe in any diety, but I most certainly believe in the metaphysical.


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08-24-06

I haven't heard of 'the metaphysical' yet? Could someone please explain?
Furthermore, it would be nice to see more people trying to find out for themselves and on their own if any such thing as a deity does or does not exist. Personally, I'd like to believe it doesn't and when we die, there is simply nothing; the end of our existence.
Unfortunately, I do not think that this is so. Out of second hand, I know otherwise. And there are way too many indications for there to be nothing 'between earth and sky'. Such as reincarnation, telepathy, hand-healing (if this is the proper phrase) etc.
Is this what is meant by 'the metaphysical'? Things that you can see and feel and hear and are yet not quite 'natural' yet also not in the religious area either?
  
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08-24-06

metaphyisal is essentialy things that exist because when they are described an image is conjured, everyone shares some kind of general idea on what this thing is be, but these things have no proven physical presence. For example Santa Claus A fat guy in a red suit who is always happy, Goblins little green ugly things that are good for low level charcthers to get xp, the tooth fairy takes your teeth and leaves you money, Pamela Anderson's boobs because almost everyone rembers them being bigger and on and on and on

there is no likeing to believe something you either do or you dont there is no wishy wash in between if you need help with this concept ask Yoda he will tell you "do or do not there is no try".

the finding out for yourself idea is assume can someone tell me where this came from exactly how would one do that, A whole lot of people for a really long time have been trying to accomplish this feat togther how in the hell could anyone do it on there own


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08-25-06

Word to the metaphysical. Although you forgot to mention that the soul/mind/essence is also lumped into the category. As is God...

I think, therefore I am.
I think God, therefore God is.

God exists! BOO-YAH!


Anywho...DYING, did I hear you say something pertaining to the 'nothing,' to 'nonexistence?' Well, you silly lil' rabbit, such a thing is impossible! There is only existence...and part of that existence isn't physical. Like Burning Bush said...Santa Claus is real...but he's not physical.


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Word to the metaphysical. Although you forgot to mention that the soul/mind/essence is also lumped into the category. As is God...

I think, therefore I am.
I think God, therefore God is.

God exists! BOO-YAH!


Anywho...DYING, did I hear you say something pertaining to the 'nothing,' to 'nonexistence?' Well, you silly lil' rabbit, such a thing is impossible! There is only existence...and part of that existence isn't physical. Like Burning Bush said...Santa Claus is real...but he's not physical.
the coolest thing about this is that all of you are metaphysical until I confirm your existince by seeing your physical form hence seeing is believeing.


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08-25-06

AHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! you're one of them!


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08-25-06

no but i play one on tv


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08-25-06

But if I've seen you on T.V., how can I guarantee you're still physical?


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