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08-15-02

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Fuckin' CHRIST! USE YOUR SENSE! There are all these questions and CURRENTLY there are NO answers. And you have no fucking clue whether or not the questions I have are generalized. I haven't presented any of those questions to you, so how the fuck would you have any clue if they were generealized or specified, you Moron!?



When did I say you guys haven't Discovered anything?? I never said that, Shit-for-brains! So, I never contradicted myself. And I HAVE asked these questions! Not specifically to you, but to great many other people and also within my own research in finding these answers. I SWEAR!






YOU FUCKING TWIT! The stuff in the previous post where I was talking about religion being related to the population and sex was the BULLSHIT! Not what I'm talking about in the post you replied to!




Hooo.... You're a moron. You apparently didn't read what I was talking about. You're missin' the point. I don't even know why I argue with twits like you.


Once again...
Your faith makes you blind.

1. What questions did you ask?

2. Who did you ask them to?

3. You say there are millions of things we haven't discovered.
Is it possible that there are answers to these questions that you have but you just haven't found them?


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Divide and conquer scheme, a classic tool of the Devils.
who told you that, your scitzophrenic Jesus?
  
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OK! Does anyone else that has posted in this thread understand what I've been saying about how The Light isn't reading my posts? From the way he bloody responds in his posts, it's giving me the impression that he isn't reading what I write. AND IT'S ANNOYING THE FUCK OUT OF ME!



Alrighty, Light... Listen... I'm going to make this as simple as possible. O-K? I'm going to answer your questions in your last post starting from the LAST one going to the FIRST one, alrighty? Ok, here we go!

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3. You say there are millions of things we haven't discovered.
Is it possible that there are answers to these questions that you have but you just haven't found them?
Alrighty, first of all... You seem to have the impression that I have said, "There are a million things Christians haven't discovered." I have never said that. Second of all, I already told you that there could possibly be answers to my questions. I told you that in my PREVIOUS post! Re-read the first paragraph in that post. I said, "There are all these questions, and CURRENTLY there are NO answers." See how I said CURRENTLY?? CURRENTLY means in the present. So that would lead me to the conclusion that possibly in the FUTURE I might find some answers to these question. Do you understand now??

Alrighty... Now for your first two questions!
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1. What questions did you ask?

2. Who did you ask them to?
First off, I'll tell you who I asked these questions to... Christians! And anyone else that believed the Bible! I even did my own research to find the answers... I even asked random people's thoughts on the subject matter. So far, I've just gotten a bunch bullshit answers that have no proof to back them up.

Sooo, you want to know some of the questions I have? Alrighty, here's just a sample of them....

Ok, your bible says that all that do not believe (I'm just generalizing all the stupid rules the bible has and sticking it into one subject).... Anyways, all that do not believe are going to burn in hell, right?

Well, what my question is.... Is Christopher Columbus discovered the Americas in 1492... Actually the Vikings discovered it earlier on, but they didn't stick around for very long. But Columbus was the on who stayed around and explored a little and met up with the indians and what-not. Columbus was the one who brought the beliefs of the Bible to America. Now.... What my question is.... Before Columbus discovered America, for those many of hundreds of years before... Those Indians never had a chance to know or read or do anything with the bible. So, therefor, that meant that those indians were NON-BELIEVERS. According to the Bible, they should've gone to hell. What happened to them when they died? So far... All I've gotten from you Christians is bullshit answers like "God has a plan for us all." THAT ISN'T AN ANSWER! Anyways... And about those indians... That doesn't seem fair to me that they should burn in hell when they had no chance what-so-ever with the bible... And if your God is like that... Then I don't want to believe in your God.

Here's another question. If God is so mighty, all-fuckin'-powerful, why doesn't God help out everyonce in awhile with all the shit that has gone on in the world? For instance... During World War 2, six million of the Jewish religion died by the Nazi's hands. They suffered and died. Where was God? I ask lots of you bible-believers, and you know what the answer is that I get? "They were martyrs." BULLSHIT! If god is willing to let millions of men, women, and completely innocent children died horrible deaths like that... Well, God can eat my ass with a spoon! And it goes for all the other sufferings in the world. September 11 is a good example, and I've got plenty more!

And there are plenty more questions thatI have... Explain Dinosaurs? Explain Cro-Mags? Explain to me how the world is billions of years old and there is more than enough proof, yet Christians believe it's only... what is it... 3000 years old? You know what the answers I've gotten from Christians is from most of these questions??? "The Devil put them there!" BULLSHIT! That's not an answer. I've got lots more questions, and all I've gotten for answers is BULLSHIT. And I doubt you can do any fuckin' better than the rest of your kind.
  
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First off, let's talk philosophically about whether the Indians went to Hell or not. Can you prove that God did not reveal Himself to them? Of course not. You do not know whether the Indians were revealed to by God. So, do not say that the Indians didn't have a chance with God and still went to Hell, because that is based on the assumption that God never revealed Himself to them. Another thing is that the Bible says that God's Law is written on our heart. Also, it says that God will not bring judgment upon the innocent. Secondly, it is wrong to accuse God of what the Nazi's did to the Jews. That is misguided anger. God gave us free will, because without free will we would be unable to truly love Him. Because of that gift, we have the option of choosing to follow God or choosing to not follow God. The Nazis chose the latter. God will not force one to do something, otherwise we wouldn't have free will. If you are to blame someone, blame those who are guilty of this atrocity, the Nazis. Thirdly, explain dinosaurs...you know reptiles are the only animal that never stops growing. Before the flood, humans lived to enormous ages (which Jack Cuozzo, in "Buried Alive," speaks of as the reason for the large skulls, etc. of pre-homosapiens man). How do you know that at that time, reptiles also did not have extended lifespans, giving them the ability to grow to such enormous sizes. How is it that before the first "dragons" or dinosaur fossils were found, there were paintings of such animals on caves, pottery, etc. There are so many tales of the man who slew the dragon. Did they just coincidentally come up with such beasts? How is it that Marco Polo when visiting China said that they trained dragons to pull carts? Fourthly, prove that the earth is billions of years old. Will you base it on radioactive dating? That is based on evolutionary assumptions. There are so many evidences for a young earth, including petroleum, the moon's distance from the earth, etc. Read "In Six Days" ed. by John F. Ashton, PhD. It is a compilation of 50 articles written by 50 scientists on why they believe in 6-day creation. There is also another fundamental law of science many evolutionists forget. That is, in event of catastrophe, things will appear older than they really are. Take, for example, the Grand Canyon. It's thought to be really old. And then look at the Mount St. Helens' eruption which produced a large miniature grand canyon in but mere seconds. There must have been catastrophe. One reason is, how is it that there are fossilized fish eating other fish? Fossilization is an immediate, but complex process. If you would like more info on that, read Josh McDowell and Don Stewart's book, "Reasons Skeptics Should Consider Christianity." You want to know about Cro-Mags, Neanderthal Man, etc. Read "In Six Days" and "Buried Alive."

God Bless!

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You're a fucking idiot. That's the same bullshit that I've heard before, just a long drawn out version of it.
  
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hmmm... i wonder, why and from where so many christians are coming here?
  
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If you want to call me an idiot, then back up your assertion. If I am wrong somewhere, prove it. Unfortunately, it is many who call us Christians idiots because we believe in something that jeopardizes their own world view. Evolutionists will quote evolutionists by faith who base their entire science on evolutionary assumptions and deem anything that protrudes from a creationists mouth as ignorance or idiocy. Non-believers brand Christians as idiots or narrow-minded because we are not tolerant of other belief systems. It is like if I don't agree with you I am branded as narrow-minded or brainwashed yet by those same standards everyone is brainwashed by what they read, etc. So, Loki I present a challenge. Prove I am an idiot, and not by your own assumptions or belief system.

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If you want to call me an idiot, then back up your assertion.
*****Non-believers brand Christians as idiots or narrow-minded because we are not tolerant of other belief systems*****

You have answered you own question.....



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Intolerance of another's belief system is hardly a definition of idiocy.
  
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I never said you were an idiot for that shit you spoke of. I called you a fucking idiot because you gave me the same crap as everyone else has. That stuff you gave me was not DIRECT. All that is still questionable. What I'm asking for is DIRECT, 100%, without-a-fuckin'-doubt reasons and proof for all these questions I have.

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Can you prove that God did not reveal Himself to them? Of course not. You do not know whether the Indians were revealed to by God. So, do not say that the Indians didn't have a chance with God and still went to Hell, because that is based on the assumption that God never revealed Himself to them.
^^^^^THIS^^^^^
IS NOT AN ANSWER! It's just bullshit that you spout off that avoids the question! And it's the same with all that other crap you gave me. I want ANSWERS! Not bullshit! That'a why I get so damn annoyed with you Christians, it's because you bullshit too much and don't give direct answers.
  
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All I said was to prove I'm an idiot. I did not give any assertion of with what regards you profess me to be an idiot. Secondly, it is interesting that you quoted only one of my three answers to that question. That one being indirect, the next two being direct. Thirdly, you cannot be completely 100% direct, because no one knew their hearts. No one witnessed the Indians every second of every day for their entire life, including what went on in their mind. Fourthly, being indirect in my first response hardly qualifies me as an idiot.
  
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Intolerance of another's belief system is hardly a definition of idiocy.
If you and the other Christians keep it up you will prove easily what I have been attempting to prove with a great deal of argument.... which is that you are fools....

Your above statement is a foolish one.... any sort of intolerance except for intolerance of intolerance is idiocy..... I do not tolerate intolerance.....

keep it up... and good job......



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All I said was to prove I'm an idiot. I did not give any assertion of with what regards you profess me to be an idiot. Secondly, it is interesting that you quoted only one of my three answers to that question. That one being indirect, the next two being direct. Thirdly, you cannot be completely 100% direct, because no one knew their hearts. No one witnessed the Indians every second of every day for their entire life, including what went on in their mind. Fourthly, being indirect in my first response hardly qualifies me as an idiot.

Looky here! More bullshit! You apparently didn't read what I wrote. Yes, I quoted only one answer (a.k.a. BULLSHIT!), but I said that I was also referring to the rest of what you posted to be bullshit too. I swear! PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND USE YOUR EYES FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD!
  
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If you and the other Christians keep it up you will prove easily what I have been attempting to prove with a great deal of argument.... which is that you are fools....

Your above statement is a foolish one.... any sort of intolerance except for intolerance of intolerance is idiocy..... I do not tolerate intolerance.....

keep it up... and good job......
i reiterate,,,....



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If you and the other Christians keep it up you will prove easily what I have been attempting to prove with a great deal of argument.... which is that you are fools....

Your above statement is a foolish one.... any sort of intolerance except for intolerance of intolerance is idiocy..... I do not tolerate intolerance.....

keep it up... and good job......

You mean he is a fool for being intolerant?
You are intolerant to are beliefs, are you not?


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I never said you were an idiot for that shit you spoke of. I called you a fucking idiot because you gave me the same crap as everyone else has. That stuff you gave me was not DIRECT. All that is still questionable. What I'm asking for is DIRECT, 100%, without-a-fuckin'-doubt reasons and proof for all these questions I have.



^^^^^THIS^^^^^
IS NOT AN ANSWER! It's just bullshit that you spout off that avoids the question! And it's the same with all that other crap you gave me. I want ANSWERS! Not bullshit! That'a why I get so damn annoyed with you Christians, it's because you bullshit too much and don't give direct answers.

How do you know that everyone in the world has not heard of Jesus?
I want answers.

The fact is you cannot produce a person who hasn't heard of Jesus.
And if you can please bring them hear and we will tell them about Jesus.


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You're a fucking idiot. That's the same bullshit that I've heard before, just a long drawn out version of it.

You asked some questions, he gave you answers.

Now you get mad and call him an idiot because he didn't know what other people told you.

How is he supposed to know what people told you?


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You mean he is a fool for being intolerant?
You are intolerant to are beliefs, are you not?
Was my thought just a bit too much for your feeble little brain to eat up and digest????

Here I will once again explain it like I would to a child....

I do not like people who do not like people...... if you... yes you... do not like people I do not like you.....

That is not true mind you..... but place intolerance in the place of like......

You and your kin preach INTOLERANCE..... as such I preach intolerance for Christianity.... as long as you tell me I am going to hell as far as I am considered you are in hell.... and you will stay there merrily roasting thinking you are floating on a cloud....

I believe in like for like.... eye for an eye to quote your lovely contradictive bible.....
if you are going to be intolerant of MY beliefs... I sure as hell am not going to accept yours.... so yes you fool.....



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I just wanna know why so many people reject God? Why dont most of you believe in a higher power? Did anyone ever give you a reason to doubt? What is your reason for doubt?
I do believe in a higher power. Just not that it is sentient. Your God is a contradiction, and that conflicts with my logics.


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