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08-15-03

Immaturity is fun when you use it right... poopy head!

I would eat dead humans if I absolutely had to... remember ALIVE!


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08-17-03

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This whole promoting canibalism thread is dark and twisted. So I'll leave you to your immature rantings.

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Dark and twisted? Mein Gott! You have stumbled on the entirety of what draws us all to Darkforum in the first place. Who could have guessed goths and such would turn out to be dark and twisted?

The ethics question is solved by the simple doctrine of economics. Supply and demand. The current supply of humans is bountiful to the point of oversaturation, creating no need to produce more and as such devaluing them. Humans do in fact have a dollar value, and it ain't what it once was. Actually, decriminalizing the trade of body parts would significantly lower that further.

I, personally, do not value humans above any other living thing. While there are some people I do value, the species as a whole I consider to be less important to me than others. And even my valued people are eligible to be considered for resources upon death, including consumption. But that's me. If you don't want to, then don't. I don't try to convert vegetarians, though I've had them try to convert me, and I don't view this as being any different.
A side note to the vegetarian/vegan end I noticed earlier. It is claimed that meat is unecessary and that fruit, grains and vegetables provide all the nutrients available in meat. This is not true. Firstly, only meat and dairy contain tryptophan, a chemical that our bodies convert to serotonin which is a neurotransmitter. Serotonin in low levels tends to cause depression, reckless behavior, submissive behavior and poor sleep. Certain B vitamins are also only available from animal sources, meaning unless you are ovo-lacto, or take supplements (which, btw, would have to come from animals anyways), you would be deficient. B vitamins are necessary for brain development and maintenance. There is also the point concerning colesterol, which is not available from plant sources. Many consider this an evil thing, but it is essential and our bodies will manufacture it anyways. Higher levels of cholesterol have been shown to increase a sense of well-being and it is largely responsible for the development of our much prized brains to the point where they are. The issue is over-saturation of certain types of cholesterol in conjunction with lifestyle.
I would also like to point out that veganism is impossible. For those who don't know the difference, vegetarians don't eat animal products while vegans avoid anything in which animals were used (food, clothing, other products). Again, this is impossible. Vegans are generally unaware of just how much animal product is in things they use every day. Not to mention human civilization in its infancy was dependant on animals, and it was the development of livestock farming that made the transition from nomadic tribes to permanent communities.

Further on the topic, we do already utilize the human dead, to some extent. It's a matter of getting over centuries of superstition to allow further use to become more commonplace. Actually, many of us already utilize effigies, representations of the dead, commonly. Especially in the dark sub-cultures like goth and metal. Realistically, what is the difference, symbologically, of having a human skull manufactured from ceramic or plastic to one of human origin sitting on your bookshelf?
And given our omnivorous diet, we would taste more like pork than poultry. A large factor in the taste of a meat is what the animal ate in life. Poultry is grain fed, for the most part.
Using the excuse of health and pollutants as a reason to avoid eating humans overlooks the fact that we are already consuming these things. Even vegetarians are consuming pollutants, regardless of whether or not they buy organic. Disease would be a concern, but it is a concern with all food. We would need to be more cautious with humans as the risk would be higher as the diseases are more communicable, especially if eating anything that contains brain matter or cerebro-spinal fluid.
Many of the concerns for disease would be handled by the same people who handle it for other meats. Any other illness concerns would be taken care of by proper prep and cooking. Though humans tend to be idiots when it comes to cooking thier meat. I know, I've been cooking for about 8 years now and I've heard some stupid customer requests. E coli isn't scary enough to put people off rare beef steak, but asking for underdone pork is plain idiocy. And don't get me started on the mayonaisse...


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08-17-03

If there were less social taboos about eating human meat, I think that it would solve a lot of problems. Burial would be significantly easier, food would become abundant to the extreme, and health would probably be more of a factor in peoples' lives...

The trouble is that humans are much harder to prepare for meat and we come in extremely different qualities depending on our lifestyles. We aren't controlled and on an optimum diet like cattle are, and this makes tests on each body necessary for multiple tests before it can be deemed fit to eat. I think that testing the damned things will make it uneconomically sound and most large corporations will stick to supplying us with livestock.


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08-17-03

I shutter to think what we taste like. All the chemicals and preservatives in us. Not to mention the fat. We move a lot, so the Muscle is probably tough. Lets not forget, we grind up animal carcasses and feed them back to the same species forcing them to become cannibals when such a thing is disgusting and amoral in our society.


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08-17-03

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Dark and twisted? Mein Gott! You have stumbled on the entirety of what draws us all to Darkforum in the first place. Who could have guessed goths and such would turn out to be dark and twisted?

The ethics question is solved by the simple doctrine of economics. Supply and demand. The current supply of humans is bountiful to the point of oversaturation, creating no need to produce more and as such devaluing them. Humans do in fact have a dollar value, and it ain't what it once was. Actually, decriminalizing the trade of body parts would significantly lower that further.

I, personally, do not value humans above any other living thing. While there are some people I do value, the species as a whole I consider to be less important to me than others. And even my valued people are eligible to be considered for resources upon death, including consumption. But that's me. If you don't want to, then don't. I don't try to convert vegetarians, though I've had them try to convert me, and I don't view this as being any different.
A side note to the vegetarian/vegan end I noticed earlier. It is claimed that meat is unecessary and that fruit, grains and vegetables provide all the nutrients available in meat. This is not true. Firstly, only meat and dairy contain tryptophan, a chemical that our bodies convert to serotonin which is a neurotransmitter. Serotonin in low levels tends to cause depression, reckless behavior, submissive behavior and poor sleep. Certain B vitamins are also only available from animal sources, meaning unless you are ovo-lacto, or take supplements (which, btw, would have to come from animals anyways), you would be deficient. B vitamins are necessary for brain development and maintenance. There is also the point concerning colesterol, which is not available from plant sources. Many consider this an evil thing, but it is essential and our bodies will manufacture it anyways. Higher levels of cholesterol have been shown to increase a sense of well-being and it is largely responsible for the development of our much prized brains to the point where they are. The issue is over-saturation of certain types of cholesterol in conjunction with lifestyle.
I would also like to point out that veganism is impossible. For those who don't know the difference, vegetarians don't eat animal products while vegans avoid anything in which animals were used (food, clothing, other products). Again, this is impossible. Vegans are generally unaware of just how much animal product is in things they use every day. Not to mention human civilization in its infancy was dependant on animals, and it was the development of livestock farming that made the transition from nomadic tribes to permanent communities.

Further on the topic, we do already utilize the human dead, to some extent. It's a matter of getting over centuries of superstition to allow further use to become more commonplace. Actually, many of us already utilize effigies, representations of the dead, commonly. Especially in the dark sub-cultures like goth and metal. Realistically, what is the difference, symbologically, of having a human skull manufactured from ceramic or plastic to one of human origin sitting on your bookshelf?
And given our omnivorous diet, we would taste more like pork than poultry. A large factor in the taste of a meat is what the animal ate in life. Poultry is grain fed, for the most part.
Using the excuse of health and pollutants as a reason to avoid eating humans overlooks the fact that we are already consuming these things. Even vegetarians are consuming pollutants, regardless of whether or not they buy organic. Disease would be a concern, but it is a concern with all food. We would need to be more cautious with humans as the risk would be higher as the diseases are more communicable, especially if eating anything that contains brain matter or cerebro-spinal fluid.
Many of the concerns for disease would be handled by the same people who handle it for other meats. Any other illness concerns would be taken care of by proper prep and cooking. Though humans tend to be idiots when it comes to cooking thier meat. I know, I've been cooking for about 8 years now and I've heard some stupid customer requests. E coli isn't scary enough to put people off rare beef steak, but asking for underdone pork is plain idiocy. And don't get me started on the mayonaisse...
I actually read all this. Formatively stated.


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08-17-03

Eeeech. I wouldn't eat nobody...even if I was starving. No fu*king way! It would be so-oh fatening, not to mention gross tasting. Look at the crap we put into our bodies...



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I shutter to think what we taste like.

You "shutter" to think... Interesting.

Ps. It's "shudder".
  
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08-17-03

Apparently, like pork, which isn't too bad really.



Advice for today: Don't pick at typos, people will hate you and run you out of town in an angry mob with blazing torches and pitchforks.


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Apparently, like pork, which isn't too bad really.



Advice for today: Don't pick at typos, people will hate you and run you out of town in an angry mob with blazing torches and pitchforks.

That's a bit extreme don't you think? I would then suggest some serious therapy sessions.

By the way, there is a difference between a mere typo and wrong word usage, which in turns makes the entire sentence ridiculous and somewhat hilarious.
  
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Apparently, like pork, which isn't too bad really.


I thought it was "like chicken". Which is rather troubling seeing as chicken (that you eat commercially) is really manufactured gunk.
  
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I thought it was "like chicken". Which is rather troubling seeing as chicken (that you eat commercially) is really manufactured gunk.
I heard about that too. I heard that they mutate the chicken so it has no beak and legs...gross.



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I'd personally like to be carbonized and become a diamond....and put into a nice, shiny setting.



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I'd personally like to be carbonized and become a diamond....and put into a nice, shiny setting.
They can make you a blue diamond for $3000 per 1/2 Car.


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They can make you a blue diamond for $3000 per 1/2 Car.

Sounds good......can you imagine how the conversation would go?


"Boy, your Mom looks good in a Tiffany setting."



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08-20-03

$3000 is too much for you. Admit it.
  
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08-21-03

Jealous?



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08-21-03

"I'm not an experienced cannibal. I just tasted different parts of people hoping I would get to something I liked." Kids In The Hall.


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"I'm not an experienced cannibal. I just tasted different parts of people hoping I would get to something I liked." Kids In The Hall.

I loved that show.....especially the "I'm crushing you head"....really, really funny.



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08-26-03

You flat-head!


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08-26-03

We do eat the dead. What do you think Spam is made of?

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