Hmmm, I'll go back to what i have stated before. A Quote from stranger in a strange land..

Thou Art God.

Benedict was a fucking Hitler Youth Party Member. He claims ignorance and forcible entry, I call fucking bullshit.

He is a nazi. Where better to subvert great good to great evil than from within the good itself.

Look back to Hitlers Germany and you will find no absolute proof that any children were forced into the Hitler Youth. Most German parents were proud to have children who would be future infantry troopers. It was patriotic to have children training in and being indoctrinated into the German war effort

So, Benedict is a nazi.

It is actually kind of scary considering the number of Catholics in the world

Shut up or I will materialize a thousand pink evil bunnies from the ceiling and force them to.....

You do not want to know....

So are you still a Catholic Mr. Tiggs???

If so I may have to keep a wary eye or two on you

As much as Fellik's mom tried hard to get me denounced by the local dioceses. I am still a member of the *coughs* flock in good standing.
Catholic girls are yummy!!

As for the current pope.. I'm sorry, but borrowing Dorothy's shoes for his US visit??? AND.. He had all his robes shortened to make sure everyone could see them...

Hmmm, which president had the clothing fetish?? That may give you an idea of where this one will take the church.

I would go over to your house and burn a cross but that black guy upstairs would probably have me charged with a hate crime

The only atheists I know that claim they are completely right, are the ones who are trying to convince anyone that they don't believe in any god like being, or don't have any religious beliefs, for that is true atheism. Lacrima can't beconsidered atheist because her belief in nature could be considered a form of taoism, or perhaps some form of wiccan I have heard about. Neither do I see Lacrima claiming to be right. Neither did I claim to be atheist. I am what could be called a deitist. I do not have a religion but I do believe in a deity, in this case the God that makes more sense that what he does in the bible.

And Dyshade, on the note of Catholics and Nazis, I wonder how many high ranking members of the church were alive during WWII and were members of the nazi party then. Even more of a scary thought

Oh, good, another "Holy crap Catholics are Nazis the Pope is Hitler OMG WTF!!!!" person. Spare me.

The pope during World War II actually condemned Nazi atrocities before the huge conflict started.

Really? Because most atheists I meet spend there time trying to convince me that they're absolutely right, there is no supreme being, and I am foolish for believeing in a religion. Though I could just be unlucky.

And if it's a formal apology your looking for from the Church for past crimes, Pope John Paul II did that already.

We aren't talking about past crimes, we are talking about the current church. And I have yet to encounter an atheist who says anything like that.

How the hell was he condemning the Nazis when he was a nazi? Before the conflict started??? Are you daft?? Seriously?? Even the church directly backed the Nazi Party.

By the way child nowhere did I say Catholics are nazis please read my posts and do not add any addendum's of your own Much appreciated

No one was forced to join the Hitler Youth, NO ONE!! This means that the Pope joined all on his ownsome. It is up to you to disprove that without resorting to what the Pope has stated about his past. Nobody in their right mind is going to admit they were a Nazi.

I could give a shit about apologies. The Nazis could apologize for centuries about the atrocities committed during the war and it would not make it better.
The Catholic Church is a hold over from the dark ages. It perpetuates poverty, pride, ignorance, and leadership by divine right.

If you think you can lump me in with the chafe and dismiss the accusations so easily you are very wrong

By the way Ratzinger was 14 in 1941. He was a Nazi Infantry-man as well as a Hitler Youth. He was a member of an anti-aircraft group that protected a BMW factory which was using jewish slave labor. He only finally deserted his German comrades in April of 1945 when hundreds of German Soldiers were doing the same due to heavy losses and the looming defeat of Germany.

Please educate yourself and study up on some history and do not take the word of your pope as god. He also stated that it was "impossible" to resist the Nazi Party and yet thousands of people at the time were dying doing exactly that.
Most vocal resistance was met with visits by the gestapo and his crew, the ratzinger family was never harassed or visited by anyone for spouting resistance rhetoric where-as many other German families were torn apart resisting them and finally defeating them.
Now the Deutsche Jungvolk was a mandatory program for German Youth and yet ratzinger managed to avoid joining(there are no records of him belonging-- he states that he was too young and yet it was mandatory for those in between 10-14) and yet he gladly became a Hitler Youth. In other instances those youths who avoided their mandatory terms it was because their families were staunch supporters of the Nazi Party and were given more time for their children to study in school before joining the war effort( Hitler wanted educated intelligent people to lead his forces).

So your pope has been both dishonest and evasive. He may not be a nazi now but he was most assuredly one back than

Oh on a side note due to my at times short attention span: Tozzy I know you weren't knocking, I never took it that way, so no worries

Dyshade, when you said, and I quote, "No one was forced to join the Hitler Youth, NO ONE!!", you are utterly wrong. Young Ratzinger was enrolled into Hitler's Youth because, as of 1939, it was required that all 14 year old males living in Germany do this. Additionally, he was well on his way to becoming a priest before that happened. AND, his father hated the Nazis, because their beliefs were against the Catholic faith. What's more, Ratzinger was a reluctant member, and often missed meetings of Hitler's Youth.

Erm, the pope during WWII wasn't a Nazi... and the Church didn't back Nazism. Vatican State made a pact with Germany to not be invaded, like Russia did. Oh, and the Axis bombed Rome a bit too. Connect the dots, please.

Oh, and, we don't take the word of the Pope as God's. He is a servant of God, sheparding over the Church on Earth in the Lamb's stead. Period.

So, please, cease your mindless hostilities against the Church.

Don't bother Wry, the people here are too full of themselves to understand.

And here you are once again, sowing your seeds of dissent. You're a fool.

Not as much of a fool as you if you can't understand what I say.

Where did I say I didn't understand your post? I understand you more than you think.

No you don't, you just think you do.

Yes. Just as you think no one else could possibly understand you.


Are you retarded?

Whatever Chaos, just go away.

I hate to break this little tid bit to you, but he was here first, and he ain't going anywhere