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I love everybody, actually.

I notice that whenever someone doesn't have a response to an argument, but they don't want to stop replying or simply admit that they were wrong, they resort to accusing the other person of just being pretentious and trying to act smarter than everyone else- acting smarter than everyone else meaning, being right about things, I guess? That sort of makes sense, actually, but still...
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I love everybody, actually.

I notice that whenever someone doesn't have a response to an argument, but they don't want to stop replying or simply admit that they were wrong, they resort to accusing the other person of just being pretentious and trying to act smarter than everyone else- acting smarter than everyone else meaning, being right about things, I guess? That sort of makes sense, actually, but still...
you could try being a man sometimes, that means using slang and cussing. not trying to put you down, bro, but just type "fucking bastard" at times. it helps your credibility. no one likes a know it all college boy, even if you havnt attended college.


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I think it would be duplicitous to speak in a way I don't feel comfortable with simply to appear more genuine.


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dude, you're a fucking unich, act like you've got a pair.


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You're allowed to sound intelligent and still have a pair. Unless you want to fuck with Winston Churchill.

Memo: You do not want to fuck with Winston Churchill. He's like the Chuck Norris of the early 20th century.


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i dont see the corelation. england just about got ripped apart by the nazi's. from what i know and my own assumptions i would have given them till about '43 to run out of men and raw materials to wage war. chuck norris doesnt need raw materials, he's chuck fucking norris.


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Chuck Norris is a pussy... and so was Churchill....



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wait, how is that the same??

these people have a right to say what they want, as long as they don't get violent, there is nothing you can do (within the law). They have the right to preach hate and talk shit about whatever or whoever they want. That is what makes this country a great place, you can say or believe whatever the fuck you want... and I challenge anyone who thinks otherwise to speak their mind about it, but how can you think yourself patriotic without believing in one of the principles that this country was founded on.

fuckem, this country (as a majority) has pretty much written off the KKK and other hate groups as a bunch of dumb rednecks or ignorant nut-jobs, why cant we just see these ppl in the same light? But don't call yourself an American and challenge their right to speak as much hate as they choose.
You're right, but it's a shame that fistfights don't break out whenever they protest a funeral.
  
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Churchill was no pussy.


  
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If what they were doing was illegal they wouldnt be allowed to protest 200 yards away. Most "protests" are designated specific spots.
Is it truly a protest though? Seems to me that one could interpret harassment laws in such a way that these people could be arrested. It's one thing if these idiots were to go down to the local gay rights organization and spew there, but they're intruding on the grief of people that have lost a loved one.


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Is it truly a protest though? Seems to me that one could interpret harassment laws in such a way that these people could be arrested. It's one thing if these idiots were to go down to the local gay rights organization and spew there, but they're intruding on the grief of people that have lost a loved one.
Of course it s a protest. You didnt know that the point of a protest was to harrass someone else? Ive been to 1000s of them when I worked for the Labor Union, all we did was protest people, even when they werent really affecting us. Gotta make sure our image was right. Gotta make sure they knew who the boss was.
  
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Of course it s a protest. You didnt know that the point of a protest was to harrass someone else? Ive been to 1000s of them when I worked for the Labor Union, all we did was protest people, even when they werent really affecting us. Gotta make sure our image was right. Gotta make sure they knew who the boss was.
Right, but you went to the source, didn't you? The people you protested against at least had some connection to the problem, didn't they? Protesting at a soldier's funeral because you hate gays doesn't make any sense. Soldier's aren't in charge of gay people and what they are and aren't allowed to do. If the soldier were gay, that might be a different story, but most of these guys are just unlucky fucks who bit it doing their job.


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Right, but you went to the source, didn't you? The people you protested against at least had some connection to the problem, didn't they? Protesting at a soldier's funeral because you hate gays doesn't make any sense. Soldier's aren't in charge of gay people and what they are and aren't allowed to do. If the soldier were gay, that might be a different story, but most of these guys are just unlucky fucks who bit it doing their job.
they aren't protesting the soldiers because they hate fags, they areh protesting them because they hate the government/soldiers who fight to defend a country with "promotes" i guess... homosexuality.

I don't like it either. But if you're going to ban them from this shit then you gotta be ready to start arresting all the fucking assholes in San Fransisco who pull their World Cant Wait protests etc.

And no we didn't always go to the source. We were usually protesting a company, one in particular Kononver, we would usually protest in front of places like Stop and Shop or Shaw's, or a new Mall going just because we didn't want them to consider using Konover.
  
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they aren't protesting the soldiers because they hate fags, they areh protesting them because they hate the government/soldiers who fight to defend a country with "promotes" i guess... homosexuality.

I don't like it either. But if you're going to ban them from this shit then you gotta be ready to start arresting all the fucking assholes in San Fransisco who pull their World Cant Wait protests etc.

And no we didn't always go to the source. We were usually protesting a company, one in particular Kononver, we would usually protest in front of places like Stop and Shop or Shaw's, or a new Mall going just because we didn't want them to consider using Konover.
I'm not saying we should restrict free speech, it just seems to me that they're using free speech laws to promote their complete lack of human compassion.

I would like to see a more grassroots, community-oriented approach though. Have the local PD pick 'em up on harassment charges and shuffle them off to the station just long enough for the family and friends to finish their funeral in peace. Then you drop the charges and let 'em go. Or local ordiances passed that make the areas around the cemetaries off-limits for public protest. "Sure, you can protest all day long if you want, you'll just have to locate down the street to the local park."


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I'm not saying we should restrict free speech, it just seems to me that they're using free speech laws to promote their complete lack of human compassion.

I would like to see a more grassroots, community-oriented approach though. Have the local PD pick 'em up on harassment charges and shuffle them off to the station just long enough for the family and friends to finish their funeral in peace. Then you drop the charges and let 'em go. Or local ordiances passed that make the areas around the cemetaries off-limits for public protest. "Sure, you can protest all day long if you want, you'll just have to locate down the street to the local park."
Yeah, uhhh human compassion means dick when it comes to free speech. Free speech means, well... free speech. Not Happy compassionate speech. And using the PD to pick them up then drop them off with the charges dropped is a disgusting mockery of the Justice system. Sorry, I heartily disagree.
  
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I'm not saying we should restrict free speech, it just seems to me that they're using free speech laws to promote their complete lack of human compassion.
It's not compassionate to protest abortion either. At least not compassionate towards the woman carrying the fetus. Facts are you can't stifle someone because you don't like what they're saying.


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but you can buy a lot across from the "minister's" house, stick a plank of wood the westbourgh's church name on it, dig a large hole, and point to it when they want to start their bullshit protests.


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that was my brother's friend by the way. it wasnt me.


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