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Now, I am offcially proud to be from San Antonio.Dont know what it is,but it looks cool.Chupa? eh, Im a little reluctant to call it,that.But it is indeed a fascinating oddity.
Cant post the pics,so follow the link to see them. http://woai.com/news/local/story.asp...4-3C6F6C31975E Quote:
Another Texas Chupacabra?
By Lynn Winthrop, Lufkin Daily News
LUFKIN, Texas -- Local animal experts are having a hard time identifying a strange looking animal killed in Angelina County on Friday -- an animal that looks eerily similar to the as yet unidentified "Elmendorf Beast" killed near San Antonio earlier this year.
"What is that?" are the first words out of anyone's mouth when shown photos of the animal, according to Stacy Womack.
Womack -- who has more than 20 years experience working at Ellen Trout Zoo and for a local veterinarian -- said she's seen and handled a lot of different animals, but that she's never seen anything like this one.
"It's not a dog," she said. "I'd bet my lottery ticket on that."
The animal's blue-grey skin is almost hairless and appears to be covered with mange. A closer look at the animal's jaw line reveals a serious overbite and four huge canine teeth, and a long, rat-like tail curls behind the animal's emaciated frame.
The animal was shot and killed shortly before noon Friday after crawling under her mother's house in Pollok. Womack said large dogs in the yard "went nuts" and alerted the family, but would only whine and wouldn't go under the house with the animal. Her brother shot the animal, tied a rope around it and dragged it out from under the house for a closer look, she said.
Womack was called to take a photograph of the animal, and possibly help identify it, as well. A live animal, just like the one in the picture, darted across the road in front of her car while she was driving to the scene.
When she arrived with her camera and expertise in tow, Womack said she almost couldn't believe what she was looking at.
"It was so necrotic, its tissue was just rotted," Womack said. "It had no hair, a severe overbite and its claws were entirely too long for a dog."
She said the animal's front legs were much smaller than it's hind legs, and that despite it's overall ghoulish appearance, it's extremely long canine teeth were in excellent condition. Also, despite having been shot, there was virtually no blood seeping from the animal's carcass. The animal's ear also "broke like a cookie" when it's head was held up for a photograph, she said
"It's body looked like something that has been dead for a month or so," Womack said. "Like I said, I've worked in the veterinary field for more than 20 years and I've never seen anything that bad."
The animal was male and weighed between 15 and 20 pounds, she said. The identical animal that sprinted across the road ran with it's head down and it's tail between it's legs, according to Womack, but wasn't tall enough to be a coyote or a wolf. She said the live animal is probably the dead one's mate.
"I would just like to see somebody go out there and try to trap the other one," Womack said. "Because it's in misery, too, and what if it gets into the population?"
Womack showed pictures of the animal to a Texas Parks and Wildlife game warden, who "totally freaked out" and called for a department biologist, she said. The biologist told her it was likely a coyote with mange, but wasn't able to match the animal's skull shape -- and overbite -- with pictures of coyotes in reference books, according to Womack.
Pictures were also dropped off at the Texas Animal Health Commission, where the veterinarian was out of the office and hadn't contacted Womack as of Tuesday afternoon. She said a biologist was on the way to Pollok to collect a tissue sample of the animal, for DNA testing.
"I just want people to be aware that things like this happen," Womack said. "If it's not the mange, it's something that doesn't need to be in the environment."
C.R. Shilling, of the West Loop Animal Clinic in Lufkin said that after seeing pictures of the animal -- and stressing that his determination is "pure speculation" -- he believes the animal is probably a coyote. The animal likely suffers from demodex mange, he said, and possibly a secondary skin infection or even a congenital skin defect, as well.
"That's just a congenital defect," Shilling said when asked about the animal's unusual jaw configuration. "We'll even get dogs like that in here."
Shilling said that without seeing the animal itself, it's hard to make an exact determination of what the animal might be. The possibility of it being a dog/coyote mix would be "unusual, but possible," he said.
"It appears to be an extremely undernourished dog," Ellen Trout Zoo Director Gordon Henley said after being e-mailed several photos of the animal. "Wild animals don't typically wind up like that, but undernourished, neglected, domestic animals do."
After enlarging one of the photos and conferring with the zoo's veterinarian, Henley said he feels the animal's mangy, crusty skin could be a result of either neglect or living in the wild. Undernourishment or a congenital deformity could have caused the animal's gross overbite, he said.
"I think what we've got here is a poor, suffering, undernourished and possibly abused canid," Henley said. "Possibly a coyote, but more likely a dog."
WOAI-TV in San Antonio has aired several stories on the so-called "Elmendorf Beast" since a nearby rancher shot and killed one earlier this year. The animal depicted on the station's Web site, at www.woai.com, looks eerily similar to the one discovered in Pollok.
The rancher from Elmendorf, located southeast of San Antonio, killed the animal after 35 of his chickens disappeared in one day. The animal was also almost hairless, with blue-grey coloring and four large "fangs." The station reported that tissue from the animal has been sent for DNA testing, and that it will be several more weeks before the tests are completed.
Speculation in the area as to what type of the animal the rancher killed has varied from simple to mystical. Some say it's a wild Mexican hairless dog, and other than the skin condition and jaw, pictures of the breed do bear a resemblance. Others believe it's the mythical chupacabra -- or "goat sucker" -- an animal Mexican folklorists say stalks rural areas killing livestock.
One area hunting guide even believed the animal might be a muntjac, a small antelope-type animal imported into the state by ranchers, according to the station's online reports. Muntjac are herbivores, but do have upper canine teeth that are elongated into "tusks" that curve outward from the lips. Muntjac are also called "barking deer" for a sound they'll emit to warn others of predators.
Like most deer, however, the Muntjac have split hoofs instead of paws, and certainly don't have long, rat-like tails.
A San Antonio Zoo mammal expert told WOAI-TV the animal is clearly a member of the canine family, and could possibly be a mix between a dog and a coyote. The expert also said the animal was clearly suffering from some sort of skin ailment, and may also have a congenital deformity of some sort.
Sightings of similar animals have been reported across the country, from California to Maryland.
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See, now you've gone and done it... They weren't supposed to be found out about for another 10 years....
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Well,descriptions of the chupacabra were along the lines of this mystery animal.Furry,Doglike,sharp canines,and small hind legs,and strong back legs.
However,I think the eyewitnesses probaly got out of hand with the addition to the red eyes(Which are in popular chupa drawings) and the reptilian skin.(which may be compared to the constant pale grey skin) The fact that in all the articles,whether dead or alive,these mystery animals were sighted as having pale grey skin color rules out the idea of this creature having some sort of Mange or disease.If its grey,then its not like your typical wallaby,or kangaroo.The larger ones (if any) have not been spotted which rules out the traditional kangaroo,but not the wallaby.The pale grey skin suggests its not the typical wallaby,but a different variation.What I want to know is what the hell are those kind of creatures doing in texas,and maryland,and possibly all over the country?Arent wallabees in austrailia? I think that this mysery animal is indeed the chupacabra(we just got a little carried away with the description).I would call it a cousin of the wallabee though.Its adapted to this country's enviroment,which changes it from wallabee type creature to a chupacabra.In one article,the creatures have been spotted just minutes after a resident found that his chickens were all dead with the puncture wounds(Chupas signature).And just recently,in a new article,one was in plain sight,and you can see the picture in the link below.They are starting to come into our world,and lives.Does'ent mean they arent dangerous.Im sure if they are approached with haste,or danger,they can fight back with the best of them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/w...st/3748344.stm | |
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I live out in the north forest area anyway.The nearest stretch of wilderness is only 15 minutes away 
