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They do not alter thier evidence. Nor do they create phenomenon. Try again
Riiiight and the Duke Lacrosse team really raped that stripper, because ya know... noone lies for profit.
  
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it seems gravity does have an explanation, something to do with the magnetic fields of planets...it's one of those scientific things, i'll wait a few year, my daughter can tell you all about it, she's getting into astronomy, i have high hopes for her interests in science and reading.

and maybe there is something like planetary alignments and magnetic poles responsible for my experiences...i do not know, i believe that's why it's called the supernatural.

until then i have a lifetime of family ghost stories, occult books and my own observations to answer that which, i nor science can not; at this point in time.

many things once thought magickal, have been proven a a scientific fact...who knows what they'll discover in the next few years?
Thats ok, your daughter can keep it to herself. I dont want the rehashed "planetary bodies create a density field in empty space... thats sillyness. Its still unexplained.
  
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we were discussing seeing if they'd be willing to take a trip up here to check out our little theatre down town, it has a history of ghosts, strange experiences and a lot of freaked out employees that won't go into the basement...

it didn't go much farther however, it seems we use to have a ghost hunter that posted around here, i think he went to one of the successful break away sites though, he'd be good for this conversation.
That would be cool.....Montana must have SOME hauntings around; I mean, how can it NOT with all the history there?



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Riiiight and the Duke Lacrosse team really raped that stripper, because ya know... noone lies for profit.

They don't charge for their services. (Jason is VERY quick to point that out.) With the jobs he and Grant have (plumbers.......you know they aren't poor!) and the merchandising, that's where the money comes from.


(And what? Strippers are rape impervious?)



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They don't charge for their services. (Jason is VERY quick to point that out.) With the jobs he and Grant have (plumbers.......you know they aren't poor!) and the merchandising, that's where the money comes from.


(And what? Strippers are rape impervious?)
Services haha...

and I know 1 stripper who at the moment has been rape impervious. She accused a bunch of rich white kids of raping her, 2 rounds of DNA testng came back negative (for them) I wonder if thsoe bruises happend because shes also a part time hooker.
  
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Riiiight and the Duke Lacrosse team really raped that stripper, because ya know... noone lies for profit.
None of thier evidence is doctored nor altered. You are just picking bones.

They present the evidence as it lies. They often debunk evidence that looks real. Like the "haunted" cruise ship where the covers appeared to roll back off of the bed. Upon closer observation by one of the TAPS crew it was noted that the camera had been stopped by someone and given them time to hide behind the bed and restarted. They chastised the hosts and told them that since that evidence had been tampered with they were tossing out all the footage and would not investigate it again.

Whether or not it is ghosts or some other physical manifestation things DO happen that are without explanation. The TAPS crew captures some of this as evidence and lets the viewer decide for themselves.

You can easily continue to be skeptical and that is your choice. Though you should watch yourself when making fun of anothers choice as you merely open your choices up to scrutiny as well



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Earthquakes move chairs, even small ones that are undectectable and shift portions of the earth a half of a degree.

As for the light? Easily done with camera tricks.
Haha.... watch the show.....

Check it out first..... skeptics are funny because they will always find an explanation even IF the explanation is far more complex than just letting it remain a mystery......

The chair was no earthquake......

The figure at the top of the stairs was no trick of light......

Here--

from here--- http://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-s...mentality.html

""We do this free of charge. We may ask for help with gas if the location is inadequately far away.""

They never charge clients for investigations.

From a New York Times article--

""While some groups charge for their services, Mr. Hawes's works strictly pro bono. "The rich and poor both need help," he explained. "Also, how can you charge for something that can't be proven to exist?" He said he spent about $8,000 for the society's expenses last year, plus a couple of thousand on electronic equipment. ""

They are a completely non-profit organization.

Well.... that blows the for-profit idea out of the water eh??

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Services haha...

and I know 1 stripper who at the moment has been rape impervious. She accused a bunch of rich white kids of raping her, 2 rounds of DNA testng came back negative (for them) I wonder if thsoe bruises happend because shes also a part time hooker.
They ARE services. People call them, and they go out. Thus the "services" term.

About that.....who knows? She was impared, and instead of these kids coming out and saying what happened, they lawyered up. If it turns out she DID lie, and the facts support it, that's one thing; but if those kids did it, prosecute them. One mistake they already made was all the press coverage (and you know how bias works in the Press.)



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None of thier evidence is doctored nor altered. You are just picking bones.

They present the evidence as it lies. They often debunk evidence that looks real. Like the "haunted" cruise ship where the covers appeared to roll back off of the bed. Upon closer observation by one of the TAPS crew it was noted that the camera had been stopped by someone and given them time to hide behind the bed and restarted. They chastised the hosts and told them that since that evidence had been tampered with they were tossing out all the footage and would not investigate it again.

Whether or not it is ghosts or some other physical manifestation things DO happen that are without explanation. The TAPS crew captures some of this as evidence and lets the viewer decide for themselves.

You can easily continue to be skeptical and that is your choice. Though you should watch yourself when making fun of anothers choice as you merely open your choices up to scrutiny as well
The problem with your statementis that there is nothing physically evident to suggest ghosts, you can fake them in pictures and on film. Ive done it personally.
  
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Haha.... watch the show.....

Check it out first..... skeptics are funny because they will always find an explanation even IF the explanation is far more complex than just letting it remain a mystery......

The chair was no earthquake......

The figure at the top of the stairs was no trick of light......

Here--

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""We do this free of charge. We may ask for help with gas if the location is inadequately far away.""

They never charge clients for investigations.

From a New York Times article--

""While some groups charge for their services, Mr. Hawes's works strictly pro bono. "The rich and poor both need help," he explained. "Also, how can you charge for something that can't be proven to exist?" He said he spent about $8,000 for the society's expenses last year, plus a couple of thousand on electronic equipment. ""

They are a completely non-profit organization.

Well.... that blows the for-profit idea out of the water eh??

next......

Oh I watch them all the time I love ghost stories on History channel and AE...doesnt mean I believe in them though.
  
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They ARE services. People call them, and they go out. Thus the "services" term.

About that.....who knows? She was impared, and instead of these kids coming out and saying what happened, they lawyered up. If it turns out she DID lie, and the facts support it, that's one thing; but if those kids did it, prosecute them. One mistake they already made was all the press coverage (and you know how bias works in the Press.)
I dunno, It just seems to obvious... angry black hooker female didnt get paid all her money, showed up drugged and intoxicated. Went to the bathroom with stripper 2 (who later called an ad agency asking how to spin the media situation in favor of money for her) ANd then they left.

All evidence so far has shown that shes lying, from the fact that shes changed her story from 20 men raping her (in 1 bathroom and for about 7 minutes) to just 3 men, to now well maybe 1 guy.

They found no DNA matching the lalcrosse guys.. interesting eh? I wonder WHOs DNA they DID find.

SHe has a prior record of falsely accusing someone else of raping her which turned out to be bunk...

Did I mention she is a drug addicted part time hooker yet?


The fact that this shit is still going on is a testimate to the anti white male feelings in the country that have given us such gems as quotas, lowered standards, extra admissions points for some minorities (not all, asians get fucked) and affrimitive action.
  
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Haha.... watch the show.....

Check it out first..... skeptics are funny because they will always find an explanation even IF the explanation is far more complex than just letting it remain a mystery......

The chair was no earthquake......

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They are a completely non-profit organization.

Well.... that blows the for-profit idea out of the water eh??

next......
Next what?

That guy doesnt charge... I lose suddenly? Ghosts exist? Wow... you should be a trial lawyer.
  
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Oh I watch them all the time I love ghost stories on History channel and AE...doesnt mean I believe in them though.
Haha.... those guys are a farce on AE and history..... they are completely for profit outfits.....



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The problem with your statementis that there is nothing physically evident to suggest ghosts, you can fake them in pictures and on film. Ive done it personally.
Sure. Just because you would decieve does not make everyone a deciever. Perhaps you just have idealized such a deceptive character you have to project it upon everyone and everything you discuss with/about.



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Next what?

That guy doesnt charge... I lose suddenly? Ghosts exist? Wow... you should be a trial lawyer.
We were discussing the validity of thier evidence not any claims that ghosts exist. The evidence stands and just because you claim that film can be altered does not invalidate thier filmed evidence.

In the Race Rock Lighthouse a chair moved. No earthquake. No altered film. No fishing string. It just moved. Explain it as you will.

Energy exists all around us and for you to think that perhaps it does not have conscious motivation is mere selfish egoism. The possibility exists that perhaps we are surrounded by energies which can be manipulated or motivated by external or possibly internal thought.

Whether you label those actions as hauntings or ghosts is your decision. There exists however certain areas/places where strange things happen that have no explanation.

These people go out to areas that are reportedly haunted and either disprove the stories or find evidence sometimes corraborating the stories. They do so out of a passion to understand and witness. You misunderstand thier intentions



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Haha.... those guys are a farce on AE and history..... they are completely for profit outfits.....
Kind of like your heros, only they dont charge people they "help" LOL help haha *snicker* they just get massive exposure on tv.