I could say that gang of teens down the road from me are terrorist because they are voilent and scare some of the people around there but thats not the case.
If he has no political or socal motivation then he isnt a terrorist.He`s been far too quiet on the political front to be called one so quickly.

You have to consider the scale on which he does it as well.

So McVeigh wasn't a terrorist?

I live in the law world of the U.K. I deal with the Police on a very close basis

Which part of the U.K do you live in Jobe?

a long range rifle is a specialist ordinance under restriction order 225 pertaining to the 1998 Prevention of Terrorism Act (Ammendments)

How the hell could you get a rifle with a range of over 600 meteres? I'd be amazed. You even try to get something with that range and Military intellgence will tip off the Anti-terrorist unit. Besides how good a shot do you think you are? You would need a heavy duty scope to see detail at 600 meteres.

I would like to retract my ealrier statement that the police in wahsington were clearly incompetant. I see now that he has been in a rather deserted area with minimal air traffic and large tracts of open space. The fact is he's clever. ALhtough unles she changes his van soon the polce will at some point catch him.

Neon

God I hate those shemales.

is that just your way to save face? fact is if Jobe wants those weapons hes going to get them clear and simple. and all the ordinances and anti terrorists groups in the land arent going to get him, lets face it its like finding a needle in a stack of needles... are you as retarded to think that England truly is that safe and secure? then youre not only insane but an incompetent and overly idealist law man.... which i guess is common in young lawyer types before they taste real life.

i still think it's just some hunter that's grown tired of the usual game...he may not even be from the area...

Billy,

Stop talkingm out of your arse about England. When You live here or have evidence to prove you case, comment.

The fact speak for themselves.

England has 1/8 per 1000 people murders.

Now lets check firearms related offences.

England has 1/50 the number of the U.S. (International gun lobby statstics)

NEVER insult my professional skill again, Do you hear me.

I have asked Jobe a question. If Jobe answers it, then we can talk.

But the simple fact is Handguns are easily available on the U.K. blackmarket and shotguns the same. However anyhting with longer then immeadite threat ranges or anything which falls under automatic firing classification is not easy to find.

Even modern hunters in the U.K. use Purdy Extended Barrel Slug or shotguns. Which are shotguns

Neon

i've been thinking about this statement...and it's really rather sad...once again they are looking for a passive scapegoat rather than looking at the faults with a society that breeds this kind of...anger...i don't think a video game or even some violence on tv would inspire these attacks...i too have been raised with such media and i'm not violent...when people kill they are usually killing something symbolic to them...or to fill some lacking need...like the serial killer with and overzelous mother, he kills girls that remind him of his mother...or the postal worker who just can't handle it anymore...so they kill what's causing their turmoil...they didn't wake up one day and say "hey i'm going to go kill, just because" something triggered it...usually a society influenced situation...maybe it's an animal rights activist wanting to make a statement about hunting...like that deer hunter game where the deer hunts you

ohhh struck a nerve did i? well lets face it, anyone who wants a weapon is going to get it so long as its just short of mass destructiion. If you cannot concede that point then i seriously DO doubt your ability as any kind of law man.

If you cannot even see passed your pride to concede that you may even have local law enforcement officials working for organized crime families or for themselves by looking the other way when illegal weapons are being poured through the borders like water through a cloth then you got some serious pride issues to deal with. the deal is... Jobe is probably a little closer to accurate on this subject than you are seeing how you seem to spend too much time in the books and policies and NOT in the streets where your magical bans and theories seem to fail. Do you HONESTLY believe that the UK can watch EVERY SINGLE port and check EVERY single package that comes through your countries borders? If you think that then you are even dumber than i thought. Now toss in the fact that theres likely a lot of money to be made on illegal firearms and the fact that theres plenty of greedy public officials as well as organized crime in England and you see what im getting at. Your laws will only monitor and bstruct those who would try to use conventional and honest methods of obtaining a fire arm they want be it shot gun hand gun or rifle with sniping abilities. With your lack of forsight i honestly believe that you live in some cut off fantasy world Neon... i think that might have been what Jobe was getting at, because the England you see from your window and the England the people living in the streets with thier faces in it see are 2 differnt things... unfortunatly your position is one of the sidelines. That is somehting i CAN talk about because thats a human element not just an english one.

And dont tell me to shut up aobut it, if you dont like what i have to say refute it with evidence from the English government that every single sniper rifle ever attempting to get into england since 97 has been apprehended and i might take you more seriously...then again i most likely wont..especially since the English government would be foolish enough to assume that they DID get every single rifle that go to the borders. More of that English pride that started an empire eh?

Heres some advice, stick to your books and statisics in your little world and let the rest of us just know what we already know. we dont need your idealist nonsense in there annoying everyone.

its usually something biological as well as sociological because there are people in abusive situations everyday far more people DONT commit the crimes than do... case in point check out the Yorkshire ripper who i have as my avy, Peter Sutcliff, he had a pretty good life growing up, both parents, siblings, went to school etc etc even got married and had a wife al the way up to his capture after he murdered 30 women. Its something physically wrong maybe in thier brain as well as a few social problems that all collide together in a bizzarre coincedence that will breed serial killers. Just to say its a product of thier society is wrong though, otherwise how would you explain Ted Bundy, Peter Sutcliff, John Wayne Gacy etc etc etc...?

Between England and America... Um. I'd love it if you two could not take it so personally. It's healthy for having opposite points to disagree on, but this is making me feel ridiculous watching you two drag it on, I'm sorry, but it is. It's just bickering, to me.
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About the sniper. I've been wondering about something. According to the authories... Just what is this killer's profile?

then put us on ignore.

I don't want to. I like skimming though the posts. And I haven't put anyone on ignore ever since I came here. I am not going to start now.

Like fuck am I gonna tell you where I live!!!!

You would be round with the pigs sooooo fast.

But believe me you have no fucking idea what this country is like.

2 thinngs....

1) I was in the Armed Forces and you have no idea the shit that goes on there, you ask the Tactical Supply Units what they bring home...

2) I also worked with Drug Dependancy Agencies and work involved close quarters with a lot of drug dealers and unsavory people, you would be fucking surprised just what you can get hold of no questions asked if you have the money, that is no joke ad it frightens the fuck out if me everyday...

then whats the point about whining to us about this and that? do you think that were going to stop for a stranger? or that you will somehow put it at an end because you want it to? im not trying to be rude... but if its not such a problem then why comment? and if it is a problem, put it on ignore. problem solved.

*moves his stash of guns and explosives in case they trace this email....*



Now where did I put that silencer?

I know you're not trying to be rude, but what I wanted to say was that it was ridiculous the way you two were being. And then after I say something, you get on my case. I mean, get off, for a minute. I was tryin' to be nice.

But since you're still on my case, I'd like to ask you if you know where to find the killer's profile, so far as the authories know. Besides, I was planning on going to D.C. next year to check out a college, but if this thing keeps up, I'm going to change my mind about going.

dont be so suburban, im sure by then there will be something that happens to make him move or captured... are you afraid to fly too?
im not sure about his profile, im certain th best details are kept from the media. But you could check out anything on CNN or whatever whos been covering it.

Savage, you've made your point. I will now kindly ask that you and Billy get off that little issue so we can continue with the conversation...

I don't think you'd have to worry ab