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Racial Profiling... - 04-18-02

Hmmm lets look at the people in line at the airport metal detector.

63 year-old grandma from Deluth
35 year-old Middle-Eastern Male
7 Year-old Jamacan child

Which one do YOU think deserves a bit of extra scrutiny?

OOPS - GOTTA BE PC - Better strip-search Grandma!

An aquaintence who knows such things says security screeners have been instructed to LAY OFF the middle-easterners for fear of 'profiling' accusations. THIS is not only foolish, it could be fatal.
  
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04-18-02

Meh, macrocosmicly you're saying that we should strip-search every Christian because there's a lot of fanatics and they killed many people during the crusades...


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04-18-02

The jamican kid!!!
  
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04-18-02

The Crusades?

Far from me to defend Christianity, but the fact is that Islamic forces were invading much of southern Europe before the first Crusade. In fact, much of Asia minor and the so called "Holy Land" were Christian before Islamic forces took it over.

Anyway, enough of beating that old dead horse.

What I see is a willfull ignorance to maintain political correctness. Fact is that the terrorists fit a certain profile and it is people that fit that certain profile who should get the extra attention.
  
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04-18-02

Why stop there though? Let's do it with Ravers too, you know they always have drugs... freemasons are known tax evaders... Hey what about hippies, they probably dodged the draft!

Well hell, why don't we just come up with a definition of "normal" and then hassle/question/generally make life unpleasant for anyone that doesn't look "normal." Then we'll cover all our bases.

I'm not saying your thoughts are unjustified but I am saying they would be the beginning of a bad thing.


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Why stop there though? Let's do it with Ravers too, you know they always have drugs... freemasons are known tax evaders... Hey what about hippies, they probably dodged the draft!

Well hell, why don't we just come up with a definition of "normal" and then hassle/question/generally make life unpleasant for anyone that doesn't look "normal." Then we'll cover all our bases.

I'm not saying your thoughts are unjustified but I am saying they would be the beginning of a bad thing.
Dont forget goths, we all know theyre gay and shoot up schools.
  
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04-18-02

Precisely, buncha fuckin violent faggots they are!


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Precisely, buncha fuckin violent faggots they are!
fucking word! they write shitty poetry and dress like retards too!!!
  
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fucking word! they write shitty poetry and dress like retards too!!!

And don't forget their tendencies toward poor personal hygiene


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And don't forget their tendencies toward poor personal hygiene
fuckin-A!!! we need to kill all the goths and goth subculture)yeah right) off.
  
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04-19-02

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Why stop there though? Let's do it with Ravers too, you know they always have drugs... freemasons are known tax evaders... Hey what about hippies, they probably dodged the draft!

Well hell, why don't we just come up with a definition of "normal" and then hassle/question/generally make life unpleasant for anyone that doesn't look "normal." Then we'll cover all our bases.

I'm not saying your thoughts are unjustified but I am saying they would be the beginning of a bad thing.
Ravers, freemasons and hippies are hardly an equal threat. Terrorism is far more serious than tax evasion or drug consumption. There is a time to be "PC" and a time to realize when political correctness is interfering with the safety of an entire nation. If we keep going down this road, this country will become so fucking soft and babified, that law enforcement will no longer even be able to arrest a suspect by discription. Its going to get to the point, that police line ups will have to consist of a White, a Black, an Asian, a Hispanic, an Arab and fuck might as well round up an Native American for good measure.... When the victim's discription of the offender was clearly a balding white guy with glasses. (Notice I said "White Guy" for this post, because if I didn't then it could be seen as racist and not very PC)

The fact is, that the terrorist we are currently having trouble with ARE of middle eastern decent. NOT 60 year old white ladies. Thats just fucking ridiculous. There is a time to be "PC" and a time to grow the fuck up and get over ourselves and stop wasting time and money and get the fucking job done. Then we can go back to pussy footing around and walking on eggshells.


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04-19-02

Notice how I curse when I'm attempting to come off as unrefined and childish? Just thought I'd bring attention to that.

Anyways, in response to your rant I'd like to remind you that the bulk (99%) of middle-eastern people in the united states are unlikely to be terrorists. Furthermore, it might interest you to know that Al-Queda has delivered more funds to home-grown white, thirty-year-old, male terrorist groups in the U.S. than even their own terrorist cells. Morally, and sensibly racial profiling is no better incorporated here than in any time in our past.


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04-19-02

That may be so, although I've yet to come across that information.

But the fact remains, the people who drove those planes into the world trade center on Sep.11th were of middle eastern decent. Again, NOT 60 year old white ladies. The idea that we stop searching middle easterns along with everyone out of fear of being "Racial Profilers" is again ridiculous.

Besides as you've clearly stated "AL-QUEDA has delivered more funds to home-grown white, thirty-year-old, male terrorist groups in the U.S. than even their own terrorist cells". Yeah AL-QUEDA, a MIDDLE EASTERN terrorist group. dark skin, long fucking beards. "A budda budda". They may be sending money to "white terrorist groups", but they are still clearly the root of the problem. Besides, when is the last time a caucasian person willingly sacrificed their own life in an act of terrorism? Exactly, so chances are you're not going to be seeing a white man getting on a plane with plans of riding it to his death, because the majority of white people are of religions that don't believe in the nobility of suicide, or are not religious at all, there for are not fanatical enough. Thus, the only type of terrorist attacks they will be providing are bombings of which they will be clearly out of the path of (Oklahoma City i.e). Terrorist attacks which are not easily stopped or identified before hand like those coming through airports. We do what we can

So yeah I guess we could stop every white guy on the street and check'em out, but we're not even doing that to middle eastern people. We may stare at them suspiciously, but thats every American's god given right. I stare at alot of people suspiciously.

The fact remains.... with racial profiling we are more likely to stop a terrorist plot, then with out. Besides its not like we're not checking people of other nationalities.


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04-19-02

Steel is made by putting the iron bar in the fire until it gets red hot and then hammering the hell out of it.


I think many people will have to go through similar treatment before they can steel themselves for war. The enemy will certainly provide the fire and the hammering.


This is war folks, time to get tough.
  
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04-19-02

This war is being fucking fought so the rich bastards in America can grow richer. I fucking REFUSE to lower my moral standards so they can line their pockets with gold.


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If I'm not mistaken, isn't true that you, yourself are an American and live in the United States?


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What history class did you take that said America benefits from American Tyranny?


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That is true, and I am not proud of that.


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04-22-02

I'll put aside the fact that you continue to live in the U.S., pay taxes and use it's resources, for the moment.

I am just curious what it is about America that makes it so horrible to live in?


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The current amount of racial profiling that's going on without the additional muslim profiling.

The tyranny.

The monopolies.

The use of legislature to dictate lifestyles.

It's bi-partisan politics which should be without any parties.


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