Entirely too many. But there you go again with your faulty fuckin logic, you have to KNOW muslims in order to want to defend yourself from islamic terrorists, you have to SEE someone blown up before you can support a war. I never listend to Ann Coulter but she was really on to something with the liberal doctrine of infallibility.

oh shut the fuck up.... you twit. how is killing islam winning? what do we get, what does that prove other than that we have the biggest guns. I would submit that sucessfull negotiations would be "winning".

and way to go not answering my question, how many muslims do you know?

The Conservative Doctrine of Infallibility is so much better! I hear that it works wonders for the intellectually inferior . . .

Oh christ you and your fucking negotiations... you CAN NOT negotiate with someone whos starting point is to see you dead pull your head out of your fucking ass ya moron.

You'll have to define that doctrine. If by logic then yes, it works well. But the old you cant support a war unless you fight in it bullshit is horseshit brought on by liberal dumbfucks who cant make a real point as to why we shouldnt be defending ourselves.

the crux of your argument relies upon deliberately misrepresenting my viewpoints. Either this is motivated by ignorance or an alterior motive. However, it demonstrates a lack of intelligence and sincerity and shows that you are incapable of making informed decisions on US foreign policey.

I dunno dude, they say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting differnt results, much like your old "lets talk to them lets negotiate, lets have a dialogue". And the results are always the same, w elook weak and they keep trying to kill us. The fact that you refuse to accept this shows that youre either so fucking egocentric that you wont let a little thing like history or reality get in your way or your so blinded by your hatred for the United States and Bush that you would prefer to see us fail then to see him succeed.

I personnaly havent seen anyone blown to bits, and I thank god for that, but I have seen pictures and know a few people who have, interestingly enough they all seem to suppport what were doing. Your argument would be of course these people are some how brainwashed by the US propaganda machine.

As private citizens I would agree with everyone we will never know the whole truth about any of this stuff. But to assume that there is a peaceful outcome at this point is blindly optimistic. I will say it again the people we are fighting have nothing to lose, until you give them something to lose you can not negotiate with them.

He wasn't "talking shit" he was giving a carefully prepared address on a subject. Just because some people may react badly to what you say, does that mean you should not give other people who may actually react thoughtfully to your words the opportunity to hear it?

You want someone talking shit, look at Bush. He flings words like "crusade" and "evildoers" around like he wants to start a religious war. Nothing like bringing inflammatory remarks to the table to give people, even the ones who aren't trying to blow you up, reason to be pissed off.

if the terrorists wanted to negotiate maybe they would have tried that in the first place? i mean, if somebody's mad at me and they talk to me, i don't fight them, but if they walk up and kick me in the nuts i'm not gonna sit and talk to them dude. what the fuck? and us killing islam would prove we deserve to live more. end of story. fuck morals, fuck ethics, it's right by might, ladies and gentlemen. and we should kill all muslims because all muslims pose a potential threat. by your argument a terrorist that hasn't actually killed anyone doesn't deserve anything. he's done nothing wrong! he's as innocent as you or i. but he has the potential to harm others. i say let any muslims that really want to live come live in concentration camps for a few generations and get rid of the rest. then let the muslims loose when we're more sure we can trust them. or keep them there, like indians in a reservation. let them choose whether they want to live in captivity or die. i mean, life's life, and they could even have a large degree of freedom as long as they were under our thumb. this being the alternative to annihilation. personally i'd just kill em all. that's the philosophy they have towards us, too. it's a philosophy that makes sense. if you think someone threatens your way of life, eliminate them. we threaten theirs, and they threaten ours as a result. we should take care of them before they do away with us. neither group has to be right or wrong, it's just a fight for survival. and no, we can't all get along forever. but rest assured if we had killed every german, italian, and japanese man, woman and child, had eradicated the spaniards, southerners, and english, there would be far fewer people alive today and our security would increase as a direct result. imagine all the wars we won on foreign soil: what if they were all dead? america has never lost to a foreign 'aggressor', and hence has never truly been at risk of annihilation. imagine the face of the planet if all wars were fought to annihilation. wouldn't it be a simpler, better place? i think so.

btw isn't truce just what both sides agree on when one side knows they can't annihilate the other? otherwise why not go for the gold? i believe we have what it takes to kill a good portion of the earth's population in under a decade.

I couldn't care less about the the terrorists who are said to be a tiny minority of extremists. To quote Don Rumsfeld, they're the "dead enders", and they're going to fail.

The peaceful ones scare the shit out of me. They intend to hang around, voting, and breeding like the vermin they are until they can take over without firing a shot. This isn't such a danger in America, but Europe is already hopelessly fucked unless they wake up and take drastic action.

I hate Islam because it's a sick, evil cult of tyranny, death, and misogyny. Even in Afghanistan, which has been heavily influenced in the writing of their constitution by America, it is still possible for people to get the death penalty for apostasy. Women are still murdered with the consent of entire communities in brutal honor killings, and these people are the ones the rest of you are calling "moderate". They'll never strap a bomb to their chest, but they'll continue their savage customs, and impose it on anyone who lets them move into their country in enough numbers through their twisted Sharia Law. Lebanon is a good example of this.

France had to pass a law against Female Genital Mutilation in 2002. Nobody in France had ever thought of that sick shit before the muslims moved in. I have to laugh at some of you people who excuse or endorse the most evil customs on the earth in the name of diversity and tolerance, and the muslims are laughing at you too.

That's exactly what you are doing! You're looking at this conflict as winnable through the same methods used in major conflicts between clearly defined sides but this isn't the same kind of conflict. If you were fully aware of history you would undersand that different wars have to be fought using different tactics out of necessity. The Second World War was almost no-holds barred; while the Cold War was more cerebral. If it had developed into a more overt and aggressive conflict there is a great possibilty that neither the United States or the Soviet Union would still exist.

Wroooong.

Heres a few examples of how youre wrong.

Rome vs Gaul
Rome vs Carthage
Alexander the Greats victories
WW1
WW2
Cold War (thats right we beat them byt outspending them and punishing thier slave states, not by talking ya fat head).

Peace follows VICTORY not discussion. Get it through your thick fucking head.

why not use diplomacy and sanctions? there is much more damage to be done in their pocketbooks, most of these countries are run by the elite .1% a little financial pressure would go a long way.

Jesus H Christ, they do that already. It DOESNT WORK. You cannot have diplomacy with someone who wants you DEAD, it doesnt work. Get it? Its not the elite that are fucking doing suicide bombings, these people have NOTHING to lose. The people who are causing the trouble are not rich corporation owners, theyre muslim clerics who inspire thier people to commit murders.

Yeah, how about that. During the Cold War we also trained the Taliban; just goes to show that fighting a War without diplomacy, forethought or any regard for ethics will lead to problems down the road. You Ignorant Fool.

one of the big reasons I think some of them hate us. You gave us guns, and training used us like cannon fauder to fight your war and when it was over what did you do you left us with this horrid goverment and a bombed out world. Of any that hate us, they atleast have some basis of reason. We are correcting that mistake however.

The best example of any historical event is Japan. We bombed them into submission and then rebuilt there country, now were friends. They had a feudal dictatorship for a sociatal structure and a goverment. They had suicide bombers whom were glorfied in death. Its funny how a people, when faced with utter destruction quickly change there tune. Two atom bombs fixed that situation let em fall again, we dont have to use anything that big just be consistent.