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What is uranium?

Uranium (chemical symbol U) is a naturally-occurring radioactive element, with atomic number 92. Uranium is commonly found in very small amounts in rocks, soil, water, plants, and animals (including humans). Uranium is weakly radioactive and contributes to low levels of natural background radiation in the environment.


I googled "How to Make Uranium out of household chemicals" and got that in under 3 minutes. And if it exists in those things, I'd assume that there's some kind of method to extract it. If I looked a bit further into it, I bet I could find where to look for the highest concentration of naturally occuring Uranium. But I'm not really going to stress this much more than I have to. Point is, there's a potential for it, and our wonderful pal the internet to show the way.


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yeah. If we make all the "bad" things disappear the "bad" people will go with them. Sure.

That just ain't gonna happen.



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That is the same line of thought--- "If we get rid of guns all of a sudden crime would disappear."

I would rather keep my guns and stave off crime.



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Honestly, though, I could swear that I remember something in the Anarchist Cookbook telling how to make Uranium out of household chemicals... But I'll not base an arguement off of a foggy memory.
It's impossible... The only way to make Uranium is by nucleosynthesis, which takes place with heavy elements only in stellar evolution... The Uranium on Earth is remenant of a Supernova explosion... We humans have only succeeded in fusing the lightest element, hydrogen, into Helium. It will take unforeseable advances before we can make Uranium, if we ever can at all... It takes temperatures way hotter than the Sun to break through the Iron Minimum...


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I googled "How to Make Uranium out of household chemicals" and got that in under 3 minutes. And if it exists in those things, I'd assume that there's some kind of method to extract it. If I looked a bit further into it, I bet I could find where to look for the highest concentration of naturally occuring Uranium. But I'm not really going to stress this much more than I have to. Point is, there's a potential for it, and our wonderful pal the internet to show the way.
it'll take you a lot more than three minutes to obtain enough uranium to build a bomb... This website is obviously run by a nutter!

Even if you could find it, then you have to enrich it...


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It sounds good to me.

Any other opinions?
Given the Bush administration's tendency to "go ahead and do what they like" regardless of world viewpoint, I don't think it sounds good at all.

Considering however the date that this publication was released (shortly after North Korea's most recent demand of the US) it might simply be a load of bullshit. However, taking into consideration as well that the US is already on its way out the door as the leading world power, it might be a last ditch effort on the US Administrations part, to attempt to hold onto that position.

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A "summary of changes" included in the draft identifies differences from the 1995 doctrine, and says the new document "revises the discussion of nuclear weapons use across the range of military operations."

The first example for potential nuclear weapon use listed in the draft is against an enemy that is using "or intending to use WMD" against U.S. or allied, multinational military forces or civilian populations.

Another scenario for a possible nuclear preemptive strike is in case of an "imminent attack from adversary biological weapons that only effects from nuclear weapons can safely destroy."
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To deter the use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States, the Pentagon paper says preparations must be made to use nuclear weapons and show determination to use them "if necessary to prevent or retaliate against WMD use."
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Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-Calif.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee who has been a leading opponent of the bunker-buster program, said yesterday the draft was "apparently a follow-through on their nuclear posture review and they seem to bypass the idea that Congress had doubts about the program." She added that members "certainly don't want the administration to move forward with a [nuclear] preemption policy" without hearings, closed door if necessary.
The US is hardly in a position where they can be feeling confident in their ability to perceive where WMD may be located, nevermind who might be "intending to use them" Iraq is a very clear current example of that. That's the cover they used in the start and they had to change their story about their reasons once it was discovered that the WMD were nonexistant.

While I understand that they would want to stop the use of biological weapons, again I have to wonder how accurate they could be, as well as are they forgetting the ramifications of dropping nuclear bombs on places? They have pretty widespread effects too... I suppose the US has put a price comparison on lives worldwide, and the life of an innocent over in the middle east just can't compare to the value of a life of an innocent (or even a non-innocent for that matter) in the US.

That last bit up there, I'm not exactly thrilled about either. Congress is the level where the government activities have an opportunity to be halted if the public is informed, and against the change trying to be made. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but the mention of "behind closed doors if necessary" sounds like they're going to try their damndest to get this one to go through, and keep it as much under wraps as possible. I could be reading the last bit I quoted there wrong though.

I don't think it sounds good at all, I think it screams of a great deal of potential trouble.
  
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