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me .. out of curiousity, was a bit interested in the past lifes I might lived. I checked through a site .. and it told me that my ancestors are from palestine. hmm.. that kept me quite interested to learn more.
so .. anyone knows about it or ever had an expirience with any dream revealing your past lifes or at least a clue somewhere? Anger that burst out of nothing, for evolution I shall charge into uncertainty's promised land. it's been a pleasure, but I think I am gone... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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i've had dreams of fighting in ireland and burning at the stake  ...another method i read for discovering past lives is to start writing a historical story, don't plan anything just go with it...if anything catches your attention from a particular time or region study it a little more. If this is something you seriously want to pursue, the phoenix cards are rather a good guide to get you started...not really a predictive type of card, they're a bit more runeish. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Past lives and ancestry lines are not the same. Whereas the one traces back your bloodline of familial origin the other taps into lives you have actually lived. Incarnations you have experienced in form. Like my lineage is from a French, Dutch and Irish background but that is simply great-great grandparents and do not pertain to the lives I may have lived in centuries past. I do believe that past lives may manifest through dreams as can real time experiences such as deja vu reveal a certain place or circumstance that seems familiar. To actively discover past lives I would suggest two things. One is to actually have past life regression, which involves hypnotherapy, where one is actually taken back to a life and experiences it as if actually there, whilst remaining conscious of the whole procedure too. It's a very gentle means to access lives lived that may still carry weight in this current life. Though of course when encountering a traumatic experience in that life you can experience the whole scenario all over again as if really there. I have read documented cases where a person has an unexplained pain in their shoulder for instance, a pain nearly debilitating and then through regression came upon a life where this person was stabbed in the shoulder, leaving a psychic impression and thus brought into the current life. The moment this was revealed the person could deal with that reality and find closure and the pain dissipated almost immediately. Another matter that regression could help with is when one has irrational fears, like for instance heights or the dark, through the hypnosis and regression times were tapped into where the cause for these fears originated, and thus dealt with by understanding the cause of it.
The other way in which to tap into past lives without such a direct experience would be to find a psychic therapist who works with Spirit Guides. By communicating through and with the Guides, the therapist is allowed to glimpse images from your past life, and thus reveal the information to you.
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Quote: Originally posted by ChupaKabraz me .. out of curiousity, was a bit interested in the past lifes I might lived. I checked through a site .. and it told me that my ancestors are from palestine. hmm.. that kept me quite interested to learn more.
so .. anyone knows about it or ever had an expirience with any dream revealing your past lifes or at least a clue somewhere? | which website did u go to? i myself am interested in this and would like to know about myself aswell
another question: so if this reincarnation thing is true, then doesnt that contradict most widespread religions such as islam and christianity? wat do u think? | |
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Quote: Originally posted by Lillith Past lives and ancestry lines are not the same. Whereas the one traces back your bloodline of familial origin the other taps into lives you have actually lived. Incarnations you have experienced in form. Like my lineage is from a French, Dutch and Irish background but that is simply great-great grandparents and do not pertain to the lives I may have lived in centuries past. I do believe that past lives may manifest through dreams as can real time experiences such as deja vu reveal a certain place or circumstance that seems familiar. To actively discover past lives I would suggest two things. One is to actually have past life regression, which involves hypnotherapy, where one is actually taken back to a life and experiences it as if actually there, whilst remaining conscious of the whole procedure too. It's a very gentle means to access lives lived that may still carry weight in this current life. Though of course when encountering a traumatic experience in that life you can experience the whole scenario all over again as if really there. I have read documented cases where a person has an unexplained pain in their shoulder for instance, a pain nearly debilitating and then through regression came upon a life where this person was stabbed in the shoulder, leaving a psychic impression and thus brought into the current life. The moment this was revealed the person could deal with that reality and find closure and the pain dissipated almost immediately. Another matter that regression could help with is when one has irrational fears, like for instance heights or the dark, through the hypnosis and regression times were tapped into where the cause for these fears originated, and thus dealt with by understanding the cause of it.
The other way in which to tap into past lives without such a direct experience would be to find a psychic therapist who works with Spirit Guides. By communicating through and with the Guides, the therapist is allowed to glimpse images from your past life, and thus reveal the information to you.
I've had both experiences and both hold their own value and were equally incredible! | i heard from someone that once some guy was undergoing hypnotherapy and he died cuz he was reliving some unbearable moment in one of his previous lives... do u think this is true and could happen during hypnotherapy? im thinking of hypnotherapy or doing the psychic therapist thing myself and would just like to confirm about this death thing cuz i dont wanna die!
anothing thing...
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Quote: Originally posted by DOWNDOOM i heard from someone that once some guy was undergoing hypnotherapy and he died cuz he was reliving some unbearable moment in one of his previous lives... do u think this is true and could happen during hypnotherapy? im thinking of hypnotherapy or doing the psychic therapist thing myself and would just like to confirm about this death thing cuz i dont wanna die!
anothing thing...
i posted this question before, would like to know wat u think... if this reincarnation thing is real, then wouldnt that contradict most widespread religions such as islam and christianity? wat do u think? wats ur faith? |
I've heard that story and many others and I can assure you it's totally untrue. No therapy would be allowed to continue and be supported by Medical associations if it was the direct cause of someone's death. Also hypnosis is not a state of no control and one is fully aware of one's surroundings and the whole procedure. That is why hypnosis sideshows on Television where people act out the most ludicrous scenes because they are told to do so under hypnosis is the biggest load of rubbish ever. Hypnosis is a deep state of relaxation, where the Supra Conscious mind is more alert than the left-brain of logic and reason. It is when all the ramblings of the day are subdued so you can tap into your higher consciousness. Yes you relive the experience but seeing as you are in such a high state of awareness consciously you know that this experience is not happening in real time, that you are in fact lying on a couch (or whatever) and that you are merely experiencing it on an emotional level. Plus the therapist is there to guide you, and will tell you to move on from that scenario if it is too disturbing. So hypnosis is perfectly safe, do proper research when seeking a therapist and perhaps phone the Board of Hypnotherapy in your area and find one that does regression. Also read books by Dr. Brian Weiss, "Many lives, Many Masters" and "Only Love is Real". He documents actual case studies. He was practicing hypnotherapy for years when one client/patient regressed further than just the current life. So it was quite "by accident" that he got involved with regression therapy. The books are wonderful and I would seriously recommend reading at least one.
And as for the question on religion and reincarnation goes... I'm not at all familiar with Islam; I know very little and so just asked someone. And along with Christianity, no they do not believe in reincarnation. Christians believe you born and you die and end of story, after which it's heaven or hell for all eternity. Reincarnation has become an isolated belief system and doesn't always have to be associated with a religion as such. I know some Christians who DO in fact believe in reincarnation. And I do not see the problem with breaking the confines of religion to further enrich one's spiritual path. And if you suddenly believe in reincarnation I also do not believe it makes you the anti-christ! *grins*
The thing is there are quite a few aspects concerning topics such as reincarnation that completely question the validity of the world's major religions. And what I find interesting is that, generally, most belief systems that have reincarnation as part of that belief has such a tolerance towards all other beliefs and does not for a moment proclaim to be the one and only true religion. I think all religions and basic truths have the same goal in mind, in original form. I believe it's man and his quest for supreme control that has caused this to become such a segregated world. There are many paths to the same destination and not one is more "right" than the next. It is more a case of what is RIGHT for the individual soul ON that path! | |
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Quote: Originally posted by DOWNDOOM
anothing thing...
i posted this question before, would like to know wat u think... if this reincarnation thing is real, then wouldnt that contradict most widespread religions such as islam and christianity? wat do u think? wats ur faith? | The main stream religions today such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam do not believe in Reincarnation. However, there are some hints that suggest that these religions used to believe.
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"The souls must reenter the absolute substance whence they have emerged. But to accomplish this, they must develop all the perfections, the germ of which is planted in them; and if they have not fulfilled this condition during one life, they must commence another, a third, and so forth, until they have acquired the condition which fits them for reunion with God."
| In Christianity it is believed that a rular ordered the destruction of many scriptures that mentioned reincarnation to cease the interest in many older religions. I think there is a verse in which Jesus supposedly said that John the Baptist was the reincarnation of an earlier prophet. I don't know where though..
In Islam... there are verses that suggest that anything is possible..
there is also a quote that says: Quote: |
"And you were dead, and He brought you back to life. And He shall cause you to die, and shall bring you back to life, and in the end shall gather you unto Himself."
| There is a Sect in Islam called Sufism .. Most of these are very spiritual people.. and they seem to have no problem with spirituality. One guy said something like: Quote:
I died as a mineral and became a plant,
I died as a plant and rose to animal,
I died as animal and I was man.
Why should I fear? When was I less by dying?
| So basically it all depends on who you ask. If you go as the pope he'll throw you out of the church.. you ask a mullah he'll probably take off his shoes and beat you with them.. a jewish person might take out his nunchucks and beat you down..
If you believe that there is a great power who is capable of doing anything.. then why can't reincarnation be possible? who cares what any religious nut tells you? Believing in reincarnation doesn't seem to be a sin in any major religion.. and if you are merely searching for the truth.. then heck.. a just God would understand that, right? So in the quest for truth don't shy away from things just because a religious leader tells you to... Believe in reincarnation or not.. the quest for knowledge and truth should always be a priority. | |
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Quote: Originally posted by DOWNDOOM which website did u go to? i myself am interested in this and would like to know about myself aswell | I went to Astrology.com.
there's a free version. if you want to go deeper, you have to pay.
I suggest you to get a second opinion about it though .. that's what I am trying to find right now. Anger that burst out of nothing, for evolution I shall charge into uncertainty's promised land. it's been a pleasure, but I think I am gone... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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Quote: Originally posted by Lillith Past lives and ancestry lines are not the same. Whereas the one traces back your bloodline of familial origin the other taps into lives you have actually lived. Incarnations you have experienced in form. Like my lineage is from a French, Dutch and Irish background but that is simply great-great grandparents and do not pertain to the lives I may have lived in centuries past. I do believe that past lives may manifest through dreams as can real time experiences such as deja vu reveal a certain place or circumstance that seems familiar. To actively discover past lives I would suggest two things. One is to actually have past life regression, which involves hypnotherapy, where one is actually taken back to a life and experiences it as if actually there, whilst remaining conscious of the whole procedure too. It's a very gentle means to access lives lived that may still carry weight in this current life. Though of course when encountering a traumatic experience in that life you can experience the whole scenario all over again as if really there. I have read documented cases where a person has an unexplained pain in their shoulder for instance, a pain nearly debilitating and then through regression came upon a life where this person was stabbed in the shoulder, leaving a psychic impression and thus brought into the current life. The moment this was revealed the person could deal with that reality and find closure and the pain dissipated almost immediately. Another matter that regression could help with is when one has irrational fears, like for instance heights or the dark, through the hypnosis and regression times were tapped into where the cause for these fears originated, and thus dealt with by understanding the cause of it.
The other way in which to tap into past lives without such a direct experience would be to find a psychic therapist who works with Spirit Guides. By communicating through and with the Guides, the therapist is allowed to glimpse images from your past life, and thus reveal the information to you.
I've had both experiences and both hold their own value and were equally incredible! | I mentioned that my ancestors are from the arabic decendency because of my last name.
but what they mentioned is that my past lifes revolves around the Hebrew and the Palestines..
as for the advice .. is taken. I'll be checking out around and see what can I do. Anger that burst out of nothing, for evolution I shall charge into uncertainty's promised land. it's been a pleasure, but I think I am gone... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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