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paradox - 03-17-03

The statement below is true.
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The statement above is false.


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03-17-03

I've seen this one before, and many variations upon it. They're always fun to look at...


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03-17-03

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Re: paradox - 03-17-03

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The statement below is true.
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The statement above is false.
actually that makes sense... because the first statement is false as well, no matter the fact of the second. Truth is impossible.


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03-18-03

Both are true and both are false..it's a facate paradox.



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03-18-03

it doesn't follow logical rules though, doesn't something need to follow a logical rule before implicating whether or not it is true and/or false?


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03-21-03

*becomes inspired to watch The Labyrinth.... again*


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03-23-03

lol. It's not necessarily a great philosophical statement as much as a screen-name people can use on msn lol.
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Imagine a world without hypothetical situations...

"I want a diamond, I really do
I think that you should give me one
Then you can prove your love is true
And that the gift giving has just begun

I want that diamond, I want that thing
A tennis bracelet, a ring
It better shine, it better cut
I know it is expensive but...

What other way can you make four months of your measely salary last a lifetime
And what other thing have I ever asked you for
Besides...
The ability to read my mind
And I didn't get that either, Yet

I want that diamond, I want it so
All of my irritating friends will know
That I have worth, not only that
But that you love me even though I'm fat

I want that thing, I want it now
I'll say it once, I don't care how you get it
You can rob a store, There just is nothing I want more
Than diamond jewelry for me
And I'll talk louder so you see how very much it means to me!
Even some little stud earrings
Give me the goddamned diamond!!!"
- Rasputina, "Diamond mind"


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03-24-03

Nice. It's like a linguistic version of catch 22.


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03-25-03

Let us be quite brunt and say that the first one says the bottom part is true....so we'll say that the top part is false. Please define false. Why? Because false doesn't necessarily mean the opposite, it just means it isn't what it exactly says, usually. Therefore I'd need a definition of false before believing it's a true paradox.


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03-26-03

False, something not true.

Dictionary.com says:
false ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fôls)
adj. fals·er, fals·est
Contrary to fact or truth: false tales of bravery.
Deliberately untrue: delivered false testimony under oath.
Arising from mistaken ideas: false hopes of writing a successful novel.
Intentionally deceptive: a suitcase with a false bottom; false promises.
Not keeping faith; treacherous: a false friend. See Synonyms at faithless.
Not genuine or real: false teeth; false documents.
Erected temporarily, as for support during construction.
Resembling but not accurately or properly designated as such: a false thaw in January; the false dawn peculiar to the tropics.
Music. Of incorrect pitch.
Unwise; imprudent: Don't make a false move or I'll shoot.
Computer Science. Indicating one of two possible values taken by a variable in Boolean logic or a binary device.


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03-26-03

Thank you, Phage...I thought this was dead.

Anywho.

So the bottom part means the top part is not true. Therefore the top part should mean the bottom part is false, which would mean that the top part is true. So the top part is true, the bottom part is false. Then they change places again, and again, and again, and all the while while they're changing places, it means that both parts have gone from true to false numerous times, which means at any given time, even when it is supposedly true, it could be false due to the previous occurances of falseness.

What do I mean? I mean that it could be lying. Deceiving, telling a tale. Even when things are false they sometimes say the correct thing, because they know the person know they lies.

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03-26-03

If it cant be one or the other completly then its neither or both.Both statements are opinions and have no real relevance.


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03-26-03

Also they don't specifically target what statement, they just say above and below, rather than right below or right above, or explain in fuller detail about what statement they are talking about.

And..can you tell I'm bored?


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