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12-20-05

that does make it easier to understand..


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12-20-05

I wonder if Bush will try Reagan's cowboy sheriff tactics that he used back during the air traffic controllers strike? "Go back to work or you're all fired."


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I wonder if Bush will try Reagan's cowboy sheriff tactics that he used back during the air traffic controllers strike? "Go back to work or you're all fired."
Didnt Regan get popped comming out of a meeting to ban unions? lol
  
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12-20-05

I think you're right for once, lol.
Bush, not such a good idea to try an old stunt like that.
We're not playing cowboys and indians.



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12-21-05

if they were expecting it, why didn't they have some sort of back up plan for temporary replacements or in case they do decide to fire them?



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12-21-05

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if they were expecting it, why didn't they have some sort of back up plan for temporary replacements or in case they do decide to fire them?
Have you ever seen the kind of shit union workers do to strike breakers? And where would you dins the 1000s of workers that quickly?
  
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Have you ever seen the kind of shit union workers do to strike breakers? And where would you dins the 1000s of workers that quickly?

that's why i asked, i live in a small mountain town and when i was living in chicago, things were smoothly running and i loved their transit system!

i wonder if chicago pays better?



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12-21-05

Allegedly the MTA workers starting salary is around 50K to 60K I am not sure how accurate that is though. If its true I despise them even more. How many of MY members that I represent did they put out of work this week? fucking bastards.
  
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I don't know anymore.. i think the world is falling apart that is all i got to say about it.. :shaking head:


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12-21-05

I guess the companies will give in if it is a reasonable request. Earlier this year our bus drivers went on strike and the general public were fully supporting them. Newspapers and TV programmes interviewed people on the street, and while they did acknowledge it was an inconvenience, they did support them.

That's because they DIDN'T get paid enough and since they were starting work before buses started in the morning, they couldn't catch the bus to work and some of them not owning cars had to take taxis.

They deal with abuse, are spat on etc and the school kids - I would never want to drive a bus for school kids - I saw how we treated our bus drivers...


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12-22-05

I view it as completely selfish. Christmas is in a few days. A ciy like New York shuts down without public transport during any time of year. Why now?


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I view it as completely selfish. Christmas is in a few days. A ciy like New York shuts down without public transport during any time of year. Why now?
The union reps planned ot have thier negotiations around this time of year so that the threat of a strike and shutting down the city would be more terrifying.
  
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12-22-05

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The union reps planned ot have thier negotiations around this time of year so that the threat of a strike and shutting down the city would be more terrifying.
i guess it didn't work, just seems to make their plight less empathisizing...resulting in people..."It has become an angry refrain as New Yorkers walk, bike and hitch their way through the cold with the striking MTA workers in mind: "Why don't they just fire them all?"

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-320174c.html

this article makes some good points, but why can't they start training replacements now? If neither side aren't going to budge, what difference does it make if it's already not running?



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Didnt Regan get popped comming out of a meeting to ban unions? lol
Yeah, by a nutjob who was trying to impress Jodie Foster...probably a coincidence. Then again, Dubyah will probably interpret it as divine providence.


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Yeah, by a nutjob who was trying to impress Jodie Foster...probably a coincidence. Then again, Dubyah will probably interpret it as divine providence.
We get it you hate Bush.. does everything have to be Bush bashing with the liberals? its boring after 6 years.
  
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12-22-05

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I wonder if Bush will try Reagan's cowboy sheriff tactics that he used back during the air traffic controllers strike? "Go back to work or you're all fired."
It wouldn't have been the president's place to do that in NYC, but I'd have loved it if Bloomberg had done it. I'd like to see all unions everywhere busted with extreme prejudice everytime they give an opportunity. Also, it should be illegal for government employees to unionize, and I'm including schoolteachers with all the worthless beurocrats.

Unions exist for one purpose, to demand more money for less work while protecting the lazy bastards who should be fired.
  
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We get it you hate Bush.. does everything have to be Bush bashing with the liberals? its boring after 6 years.
Why is it you have to take what was intended as a simple joke and label it "Bush-bashing?" Does everything have to be defending that idiot with the conservatives? It's boring after 6 years.


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Why is it you have to take what was intended as a simple joke and label it "Bush-bashing?" Does everything have to be defending that idiot with the conservatives? It's boring after 6 years.
Nice flip... its like you almost came up with a real insult. Point is... we get it you and yur liberals all hate Bush gotcha... you would like ot see us fail in Iraq to see Bush fail WE KNOW WE KNOW! Get over it. Youre stuck with the fucking guy for a couple more years. Then you can lose another election and cry some more.
  
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Nice flip... its like you almost came up with a real insult. Point is... we get it you and yur liberals all hate Bush gotcha... you would like ot see us fail in Iraq to see Bush fail WE KNOW WE KNOW! Get over it. Youre stuck with the fucking guy for a couple more years. Then you can lose another election and cry some more.
First of all, this thread has nothing to do with Bush, so why go off on a simple joke? Second, don't lump me in with a whole group of vague folk just because you didn't like my joke. Third, to imply that I want us to fail in Iraq even if I didn't agree with the decision to go in the first place is insulting both to my integrity and my intelligence. Finally, I'd gladly take anyone the Republican party would like to replace Bush with compared to the weak swill I see in the Democrat's pot at the moment (except Cheney.)

Now that that's over with...how about that transit strike? Oh, yeah, it's over. Nevermind.


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First of all, this thread has nothing to do with Bush, so why go off on a simple joke? Second, don't lump me in with a whole group of vague folk just because you didn't like my joke. Third, to imply that I want us to fail in Iraq even if I didn't agree with the decision to go in the first place is insulting both to my integrity and my intelligence. Finally, I'd gladly take anyone the Republican party would like to replace Bush with compared to the weak swill I see in the Democrat's pot at the moment (except Cheney.)

Now that that's over with...how about that transit strike? Oh, yeah, it's over. Nevermind.

Oh I am sorry if you wanted to act like a limp noodled liberal and make lame brained jokes (that we have been hearing for 6 years straight) Then by all means dont be offended when I call you a limp noodled kool aid drinking lib.
  
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