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10-21-03

You're so sweet Six but he doesn't offend me, Gad I've had much meaner than him, he's a pussy compared to what I've delt with in my existence.

I'm on a jury at the moment for a case that couldn't be analysed by a computer, but I tell you what, a computer wouldn't come up with some of the crap conclusions the jury is coming up with. The whole court process is incredibly time consuming and costly but I don't see you, Dark, coming up with any alternatives no matter how obscure. Brainstorming isn't your thang, obviously.
Anyway, getting back on topic, to me, there is something inherently wrong with killing a killer. It's a pretty base instinct though.


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10-21-03

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I'm on a jury at the moment for a case that couldn't be analysed by a computer, but I tell you what, a computer wouldn't come up with some of the crap conclusions the jury is coming up with. The whole court process is incredibly time consuming and costly but I don't see you, Dark, coming up with any alternatives no matter how obscure. Brainstorming isn't your thang, obviously.

God have mercy on us all. And I'm not the one suggesting changing the jury system, so coming up with clever little barbs obviously aint your thang.


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10-21-03

The thing is that computers only have a sense of justice that is programmed into them... Ultimately, it is the group of people who enetered the terms of judgement into the system who would be dictating the sentences of accused felons while it is in effect. Basically, we're allowing a bunch of people who may not be ideal to preside over, and continually judge all trials while the system is in place.


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10-22-03

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God have mercy on us all. And I'm not the one suggesting changing the jury system, so coming up with clever little barbs obviously aint your thang.
It wasn't meant to be a barb babe just an observation. I like to brainstorm and pushing the boundaries is the only way I've learnt to come up with ideas no one has thought of. I never infer that they are the 'be all and end all' or even that they are viable, just that there are alternatives that can be explored and built on. So fuckin back off.


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10-22-03

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The thing is that computers only have a sense of justice that is programmed into them... Ultimately, it is the group of people who enetered the terms of judgement into the system who would be dictating the sentences of accused felons while it is in effect. Basically, we're allowing a bunch of people who may not be ideal to preside over, and continually judge all trials while the system is in place.
Yep, I see your point. Okay what about a programme that after entering the information of the case can give a viability reading on whether the case should even front a jury. Lets face it, many cases should not even make it to that process. Anyway like I said earlier I can forever keep coming up with obscure alternatives (just part of my make up) but I don't want to get off the topic. Maybe we could kill murderers in nice ways, death by chocolate.


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10-22-03

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For some obscure reason America has people kill the murderer.
You know, death sentence.

Am I the only person who can't figure out why they're KILLING a KILLER?
I thought we were against killing? Hence why the killer was in trouble.



They kill tigers that have tasted human flesh because once they've done it there's no reason why it won't be easier next time of course we could justify killing soldiers on the same principle...except they're being told to kill so that's ok.

There is no justice..only actions..wouldn't you rather have a murderer taken out of lifes already complicated equation than left around to increase the likelyhood of your own painful and unexpected death...overmoralisation is as bad as fascism when it comes to removing peoples rights to live freely.



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10-22-03

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10-22-03

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Yep, I see your point. Okay what about a programme that after entering the information of the case can give a viability reading on whether the case should even front a jury. Lets face it, many cases should not even make it to that process. Anyway like I said earlier I can forever keep coming up with obscure alternatives (just part of my make up) but I don't want to get off the topic. Maybe we could kill murderers in nice ways, death by chocolate.

You're again forgetting that computers have no sense of reason or comparison. How do you make a computer that can tell what evidence is "reasonable" and what's "ridiculous"?


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10-22-03

only a matter of time.......get bill gates on it......
  
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10-22-03

Bill Gates has yet to make a computer that can reliably add two and two together and not make Null//Error:/279InCache.6756342\\



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10-23-03

hah.

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You're again forgetting that computers have no sense of reason or comparison. How do you make a computer that can tell what evidence is "reasonable" and what's "ridiculous"?
I never professed to be a comp. tech., Quizella was my inspiration, that and spread sheets. If the law was categorised by numbers (which it is) why couldn't a formula be devised to 'weigh' the facts before it came to court? Like I said it was an idea not something I thought I needed to write the programme for to prove viability, for fucks sake.


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10-24-03

From a techy viewpoint I can say that all computers are created by humans so their values would end up being pretty much the same but with no ability to think outside the box or look deeper into the facts..You'd just make justice faster and..heartless.



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10-24-03

And far less accurate.


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10-24-03

Possibly, but at least we'd be able to throw anything out that doesn't have any merit and shouldn't be clogging up the system. Computers could implement the code, not run the system.


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10-24-03

Wouldn't work..



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10-25-03

Just say 'happy birthday' and shut the fuck up. I don't care any more, kill 'em all.


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10-25-03

yes.....kill 'em all......
  
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10-25-03

Yep, everyone would be better off. Kill all the dudes on multiple life sentences; they're only a drain on society. Kill all paedophiles, they can't be cured anyway and it would shake up the priesthood. Any more nominations for the death stakes?


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10-25-03

republicans!!!!!!!!!!! and people who support "the truth.com".......and everyone who believes we landed on the moon in 1969.......
  
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10-25-03

yeah, now we're on a roll....People who wear pastels and anyone with Celine Dion in their CD collections. Fuckers who don't indicate when they're turning and old men in hats who drive Volvos.


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