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Michael Jackson cleared - 06-13-05

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Michael Jackson cleared of abuse


Mr Jackson was accompanied to court by his parents and siblings

Singer Michael Jackson has been found innocent on all 10 charges of child abuse at the end of his trial.

The singer strenuously denied the charges of molesting a 13-year-old boy. There were cheers from his fans outside the court as the verdicts were read.


He was also cleared of giving the child alcohol and conspiring to kidnap him and his family.

The verdicts end a one-week wait for the jury's decision in Santa Maria, California.

The star was accompanied from his Neverland ranch by family members including father Joe, mother Katherine and sisters LaToya and Janet.

Michael Jackson fans gathered outside court for the verdict

His trial began in February and the jury retired on 3 June. More than 100 witnesses took the stand in the trial.


They including Mr Jackson's accuser Gavin Arvizo and his mother Janet.

The trial was sparked after British journalist Martin Bashir made a documentary in which Mr Jackson admitted sharing his bed with children.

Past allegations
Bashir gave evidence but refused to answer many of the questions put to him.

Mr Jackson's former wife Debbie Rowe spoke in favour of the pop star, but called his entourage "opportunistic vultures".

And actor Macaulay Culkin denied being abused by Mr Jackson when he was a child star. But Mr Jackson did not take the witness stand himself.

Judge Rodney Melville, who presided over the trial, allowed past allegations against Mr Jackson to be aired in court.


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Pity.


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06-13-05

I love how people bash the media, but endorse whatever sources of it they choose to when they have a bloodlusty opinion about a certain individual in society; solely (or at least mostly) based on the information spread by the media itself.

His appearance and (media) portrayed mental state is disturbing, yes, but so is Marilyn Manson. Lotta people think he's cool...


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I love how people will defend somone just based on how much they like their music. It's a funny old world.


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06-13-05

Now he will sink into the hell of unproven guilt, just like O.J. Simpson.
  
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06-13-05

Ok - what he did was really unnerving, but what about his past? He was brought up by a bullying father, he was in the limelight from the age of 5 - or before? He has never had the kind of upbringing that 'normal' people have had. I think that has to be taken into consideration. Yes - what he did was wrong (in a western society) but did he really know what was right from wrong? Such a sheltered childhood.


I'm not condoning what the allegations were, I'm just questioning people's opinions.


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06-13-05

This whole incident just shows that american justice is made of the same material as those of the europeans.




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His appearance and (media) portrayed mental state is disturbing, yes, but so is Marilyn Manson. Lotta people think he's cool...
Don't even compare Marilyn Manson with jackson.

Marilyn Manson looks weird (to my opinion he looks awesome) and wears strange make up and cloths,but that's it.
He still acts like a normal rockstar.


Micheal Jackson owns his own amusement park and zoo,has a pet chimp,admitted to sleep with children,had more 40 plastic surgeries on the face,is a 40 year old man that claims to be Peter Pan and climbs in trees,wears make up to look like a white,has 3 white kids however he's black so on and on.
Weirdness is not stop with that thing.

Marilyn Manson's looks is only to fit the image to the music he makes.

Jackson is just a freak that belongs in a mental institution.
  
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Yes - what he did was wrong (in a western society)
Diddling little kids is wrong, and I don't give a fuck about multicultural moral relativism. If the Fuckpuk tribe in eastern whogivesashit builds their culture around diddling little kids, then they are uncivilised subhumans.
  
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Whoa, I beat you by 3 minutes posting this thread in Offtopic, nya! ... Yeah, sorry, I cannot take MJ as serious, so thats where I put it.
  
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I love how people will defend somone just based on how much they like their music. It's a funny old world.
I don't know if you're being sly and giving me a jab or extending my point!

In either case, I agree with that too. Just to make note: I don't have an opinion whether or not he's guilty or innocent. All I know is that I don't know enough of the case and I certainly don't trust the media to make some sort of judgement that anyone should take as fact.

Syphilis -- in terms of Manson, I wasn't even judging the man's tastes and views and etc. I never said that I was pro or con Manson OR Jackson. I was just making the point that peoples sense of taste shouldn't be made into what formulates an opinion concerning guilt or innocence. I'm personally amazed at the ignorant bias of it all...


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06-14-05

I hope he dies butt-fucking his pet chimp. I hate the guy, hes stupid and I don't, didn't, nor ever will believe that he is innocent.



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06-14-05

I really wouldn't be surprised if he died soon.
He's probably going to lose that house, and I can't see his career flying high again.
Is he capable of living without a theme park in his back yard and facing up to his debts?

Like Synikul said, unproven guilt, who's going to look at him the same way again?
I don't think it matters what the court says, those that think he's innocent always have, and many like myself, who did't trust him, still don't.

The jury said there wasn't enough evidence. That in no way tells me he's innocent.



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Diddling little kids is wrong, and I don't give a fuck about multicultural moral relativism. If the Fuckpuk tribe in eastern whogivesashit builds their culture around diddling little kids, then they are uncivilised subhumans.
I totally agree - however, I never said I was refering to 'diddling' little kids (yes, wrong in any society). There's the supplying of alcohol and porn to consider also.


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This whole incident just shows that american justice is made of the same material as those of the europeans.




Don't even compare Marilyn Manson with jackson.

Marilyn Manson looks weird (to my opinion he looks awesome) and wears strange make up and cloths,but that's it.
He still acts like a normal rockstar.


Micheal Jackson owns his own amusement park and zoo
I think thats pretty cool - if I had the money I would too.
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,has a pet chimp,admitted to sleep with children
my kids sleep with me and/or my fiancee upon occasion, depending on if they are sick, or just can't handle the noise in the area, it brings them comfort, as to the monkey - it's a pet.

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,had more 40 plastic surgeries on the face,
he was also berated and teased mercilessly as a child about his face

which is worse?
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is a 40 year old man that claims to be Peter Pan and climbs in trees,
it's a bit odd, but there's nothing at all wrong with it

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wears make up to look like a white man,
he has a documented pigment disorder that gives him a very large "splashy" look and it's really not appealing - he doesn't want to look like some paint by number page

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has 3 white kids however he's black so on and on.
The mother of his children is white - of course they are going to be light skinned.
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Weirdness is not stop with that thing.

Marilyn Manson's looks is only to fit the image to the music he makes.

Jackson is just a freak that belongs in a mental institution.
That's your opinion, I admint he isn't exactly a stand up guy, but come on, the media and society will blow anything they can out of proportion... and there are only 12 people that know whether or not the not guilty verdict was deserved.


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06-14-05

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I totally agree - however, I never said I was refering to 'diddling' little kids (yes, wrong in any society). There's the supplying of alcohol and porn to consider also.

the jury didn't find him guilty of supplying alcohol, and in my opinion that was wrong.. if he owned the house, the he was ultimately responsible to insure that they didn't get any. BUT the porn wasn't a charge - had it been, they said they would have convicted that.


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06-15-05

It was a political setup to waste more money in Ca.

He is( in my opinion ) guilty of several charges that were brought, and several that might not have been...


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06-26-05

Man, why sentence a man who is already living in a permanent sentence? The stone has been cast and MJ will forever be branded the freak.
  
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