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Lord Of The Rings - 09-27-05

I have often heard that J.R.R Tolkiens works represents something. Many theories no doubt exist, but one that is striking in todays world, and one which I am sure Tolkien himself will nod in agreement and say that is what he wrote the LTR about - is the international banking system.

The theory goes that the rings of power symbolise the different central banks around the world. The one ring, which is the ring to rule them all is the the world central bank, and that is the one which is being sought to bind the others in its power.

I clearly agree with this theory!

It makes sense considering that Tolkien was both a 'racist', a 'nationalist' and someone who greatly respected nature rather than 'PC madeness', 'multi-culturism', 'money', and 'greed'. He must of figured out whilst studying history, how the Bank of England is in reality a private bank, and how it and other central banks operate to keep people in perpetual slavery through a banking hold over governments and manipulating interest rates.

He must of also figured out with his experiences in the WW1 trenches and through WW2, what was happening behind the scenes and who was really pulling the strings. And he may of also find out what the grand plan was, and thus he symbolised a one all powerfull world central bank with the one ring which the chozenites are looking for.

If this theory is true, then it spells out big trouble for everyone in the near future. The world bank and IMF was set up several years ago, however, it is not a central bank as yet, and not all currencies have been pegged to it. I suspect the International Clearing Bank in Switzerland is the venue, and already the chozenites are already running it with the recent appointment of Wolfowitz.

I could be wrong, but the theory seems to fit.

I would like to ask if I may whether anyone has a theory for Tolkiens work or is it just a fantasy tale full stop?
  
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09-27-05

Yes, Tolkien wrote The Trilogy as a concious and subconcious means of rationalizing and narrating his experiences and events during WWII and the encroachment of modern, industrialization. He also understood that the enemy was, by it's nature autonomous and faceless, the primary agents of Sauron are the Wraith's; Drained of their humanity and free will by the power of the Ring and Sauron himself is depicted as faceless: Indicating that he understood that the real cause of WWII could not be narrowed down to any one group of people but that the nature of true Evil is something far more insidious and harder to fathom.
I'm sorry if that interpretation doesn't fit your World View but you are free to disregard it as you do anything else that does not fit your biased and foolish viewpoints.


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09-27-05

I think this one quote from http://www.lord-of-the-rings.org sums it up really well.. and in just a short sentence:

"The Lord of the Rings, written in the worst years of the twentieth century, is indeed not so much an allegory as a wish-fulfilling dream of what a conflict of good and evil would have looked like in a better, simpler world."

Which of course just supports Iron's Rite's previous statements.


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09-27-05

so i wonder who the hobbits are then? small, mom and pop credit unions? or momeyless anarchist who use barter as trade?


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09-28-05

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so i wonder who the hobbits are then? small, mom and pop credit unions? or momeyless anarchist who use barter as trade?
no I don't think that!

I think the different characters symbolise the different character traits in the average White man!

The Hobbits, Dwarfs, Elves, Men and even Ents all show something of a White mans character.

The orcs are meant to be blacks, or muslims, i think!

Sauron represents the dark power of Israel which is seeking to enslave all of humanity (including blacks and muslims, chinese and Whites) perpetually.

The rings as iv'e said are central banks!

The one ring is the one world central bank, which has still not been setup properly, but they are seeking to complete this.

If a world central bank is setup, then they have a world shaodow government which will enslave people by interest rates, wars, economic manipulation etc. Obviously you may say, people will do something about it when and if it happens. The problem here though is that you will blame an elected government, not the central banks. People will change or topple governments, and still the problem will be there.

I don't believe their plan will work!

Theirs one thing they don't consider, and that is the 'Human Spirit'.

People are not meant to be slaves!

People do not function as slaves!

I believe when the big crunches come, that people, particularly White people will seek out what is going on, and they will find the truth, and when we have enough, we will have a revolution!

Blacl people, muslims and orientals are welcome to join the struggle by fighting in their conuntries and their corners.

This struggle is a global struggle, and so it concerns all peoples.

Louis Farrakhan and Marcus Garvy fly the TRUE flag for the blacks. Not Jesse Jackson or condi rice.

Osama bin Laden and co fly the TRUE flag for the muslims. not the Saudis or King of the Hashmites.

trouble is only Whites (with the ecception of Orientals) have the brains to understand what's going on, and hence it's Whity's job to stop the NWO! not the blacks or muslims.
  
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09-28-05

One thing I positively hate about white nationalists and their forums are Lord Of The Rings analogies. It's incredible how much crap has been read into Tolkien's stories.

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One thing I positively hate about white nationalists and their forums are Lord Of The Rings analogies. It's incredible how much crap has been read into Tolkien's stories.
one thing I hate about WN's is their usually correct about what's going on!

I hate it!

.....honestly, I hate it!

If it wasn't for WN's I would never of known that back in 1968 when every liberal reporter was reporting how Vietnam stories and how the commies were being given a rough ride by US troops, not a single reporter mentioned the attack on the USS Liberty.

don't you just hate that!

yup, I sure hate exposing the TRUTH!

I mean why should I want my children to grow up in a world where people tell the TRUTH!

maybe Tolkien was trying to tell us something.

As he read GK Chesterton, who also tried to tell us something, Tolkien stayed out of politics, but wrote about politics.

Tolkien served in the trenches! he knew what was going on, and he knew who was taking the stick for it!

have you read Tolkien?
  
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09-28-05

have YOU read Kundera?


funny... all the good guys are aspects of the white man... sure. all the orcs are blacks and muslims... i suppose that means the Uruk-hai are the demon children of mixed race relationships?

bah... and I thought billy was full of sound and fury.


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He'll probably take that idea seriously.


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One thing I positively hate about white nationalists and their forums are Lord Of The Rings analogies. It's incredible how much crap has been read into Tolkien's stories.
See Tolkien in his grave: Roll Tolkien! Roll!


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haha. art is subjective after all, non? lets ponder this and eat squid together, shall we?


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09-29-05

Ah fuck...

Read a book!

Tolkien, in his introduction to The Lord of the Rings clearly states he dislikes allegory in any form, and assures the reader that the novel is not meant to be analyzed or read in an allegorical way.

Straight from the horse's mouth...


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Straight from the horse's mouth...
ah, but that's what the fascisti bourgeoursie jewocracy wants you to think... which is why they rewrote the forward in his name...



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09-29-05

it's a story!

yes though i do see the things in it saying about man's lust for power, his greed and his love for the earth is being destroyed by technology and suchlike, and evil of such will henceforth destroy the earth.

in which case, tolkein wrote something that all tree huggers can relate to.

our own greed will destroy us all. the lust for power.

what's that phrase...

power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

all books, all stories, everything can be viewed in a different way. trying to work out the reason and the why and the wherefore is something else that makes us human. analyze things. i myself haven't read the books for years, and never finished reading the silmarillion. but yeah, i see it among other things, as having a message about humans and the world. nature, mild mannered creatures and the persuit of power and domination. of which will destroy us and the world we live in.



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ents are buddhists.


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ents are buddhists.
Really? I would have pegged them more as neo-Romanticists with a sort of communism/isolationism bent...


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the only tie i brought on them with the movie was in reference to WWII where even some Buddhists enlisted in the army because Hitler was that much of a threat to the balance of things. some people argue that Buddhists are isolated folk and only interact with people because people come to them.

i see it your way too. like i put in earlier. it's all subjective and on the spot subjective perspectives at that..hehe.

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10-11-05

orcs are the mob/mafia.

Sauruman is Lenin. or hmmm...Stalin? Yeah, Stalin.

Sauran is Martha Stewart.


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10-11-05

Sometimes a story is just a story. All the rest of this bullshit is made up by alleged intellectuals with too much time on thier hands and not enough talent to write thier own fucking stuff. SO they have to analyze other peoples work and add shit in that never was there to begin with. Conversation over. I win. OWNED.
  
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Mt. Doom is found in Fiji. Or is it New Caledonia?..


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