...not to mention Africa, Sicily, Italy, Indo-China, the skies over Britain, the Atlantic Ocean, France, the Netherlands, Germany.... we also took a few beatings at Hong Kong and Dieppe...

...but my point is that the Allies had no way of stopping the Russians in the spring of 1945.

If you ask me, we all shoulda took it to the Russians in 1947 during the Berlin blockade.

No, we should not hate our countries, but we should accept that national borders are imaginary lines someone has drawn and that the people on one side of the imaginary line are on average no better or worse than those on the other side...

"I think it's more about really understanding our place in the universe, regardless of what religion you are, regardless of whether you're spiritual or not. It's about realising that we do have a very small planet and that you can't see borders in space. It's time we just stopped fighting. I think a much more pressing question for us right now is how we're going to get fresh water to everyone." -- NASA mission specialist and US Astronaut Bonnie Dunbar on the spiritual impact of looking at Earth from Orbit...

What I'm talking against isn't the people of America, it's about arrogance, and my own people are far from laudable in this... Unfortunately, arrogance is not only reserved for the US / UK axis, but passes between countries like the wind...

If you ask me, we should have attacked Japan with most of our resources, played defense with England, then sat back to watch Hitler smash Russia before moving against him. It was stupid. We allied with Joe Stalin, who had already murdered 20-30 million people, to fight Hitler, who was just getting started on his 6 million. Great way to make the world safe for communism, which is exactly what happened.

[quote=Dyshade]LOL we started wiping out the Indians? HAHAHA We were formed in 1776, who wiped out the indians the previous 100 years that the English ruled the colonies?

[quote=Dyshade]As do you,and an even more degenerate one than ours... Charles Emmerson Winchester the Third of Boston Massachusettes verus Tray Styles of South Central Los Angeles...

I know who I'd put my money on to get into an ivy league college and who I'd put my money on to be shot dead by the time he was twenty five...

So HAHHHAHHAHHAA!!! to you to...

It's just that instead of a Royal family, you lot worship talentless TV tossers who live on a hill in Hollywood...

Let me put it as bluntly as I can. th eONLY reason the English lasted as long as they did during the beginning of WW2 was because of the CHANNEL!!! Without that just like France you would have had your butts handed to you on a silver platter. Sorry to be so blunt but there it is.

[quote=prometheus]If we had a class system Eminem would still be living in a trailer park bud.

[quote=Billy the Kidd]Why we did of course... At least I can admit that my country's behaviour has left, and still leaves a hell of a lot to be desired...

[quote=Dyshade]And Chris Evans would still be living in a council house in Hackney... You're point?

People can be upwardly mobile in Britain, it's just a lot more difficult for a single parent bringing up a family of five in a dilapidated cottage in rural Ayrshire than it is for someone who lives in Helensburgh in a palatial mansion...

In America, the same applies... Do you think thousands of people would have been trapped in New Orleans if they were rich and owned 4 x 4 people carriers?

Thank You for dropping the Euphamisms... I respect a man who gives his true opinions even if they are strong opinions...

but wouldn't Germany be all the more stronger with Russia's resources? Russia did come pretty close to losing, and if not for Allied efforts they just might have.

The same could be said for the US and the Atlantic Ocean.

The germans admitted in thier plans that invasion of the United States was impossible not because of the logistics but because of the large population and the 2nd amendment.

Of course you have proof of this? I can smell NRA propaganda here...

During Pontiac's rebellion, which was at least 10 years before the American Revolution, red indians besieged Ft. Pitt for several months, during which time there was a small pox outbreak among the garrison. In an act of desperation, Capt. Stephen Ecuyer, a Swiss mercenary serving in His Majesty's army, called for a meeting to discuss terms of surrender. When the red indians arrived, he got them drunk, refused their terms, and as gifts, gave them blankets that had been used to wrap the bodies of dead soldiers who had died of the small pox. The plague nearly destroyed the Delaware tribe, and the Shawnee lost nearly 50% of the tribe. The siege of Ft. Pitt was broken, Pontiac's confederation of tribes split apart, and he was defeated. Even the French hated him after that.

Biological warfare in America was invented by a Swiss man working for the English. It was brilliant act of defensive warfare in my opinion.

It mighta been defensive if it took place in Britain.

...then you were saved by your ability to breed and live with guns.

It did. It happened on land that was legally part of the British Empire.

Legal to who?