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12-04-04

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12-04-04

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What you're really saying is "I'm wrong in my judgements and I know it, but I don't care because other people have done that a lot too."

Loser. You'll never achieve anything with that attitude.
I'll be attending to this soon.

I just have a question for one of the mods of this forum, if they ever decide to put in a brief appearance.

Would I be allowed to get away with a flame like this on the politics board?
  
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12-05-04

Oh great. I`ve only just realised that I`m the only mod that will ever show up in here.

You were both mature enough to take it to the bitchboard and it hasnt carried on in this thread, so there isnt any major problem here. Every forum and thread in Serious Discussions has a anti flaming policy but there isnt very many mods (or admins *cough*) around anymore that will do anything with the site let alone mod it. I`d like to change that but that would mean picking a new mod out of a group of people who are in almost complete opposition to one or more poster in this section.

Suggestions on a postcard please.


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12-05-04

Hell all this just depends on your point of view. To us, they are insurgents or terrorists, to others they are holy warriors fighting the army of the devil.


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12-05-04

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Since the first caveman picked up a rock and bashed in another caveman's head to get the meat he was eating people have formed groups, and those groups have fought over everything. That's the way it is.
Does this lead you to believe that this is the way it will always be?
  
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12-06-04

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Does this lead you to believe that this is the way it will always be?
Yes. People are social. We will always form into groups, large and small, when two groups come into conflict, they will fight. This will never change.
  
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12-06-04

I see. So, your reasoning is 'This will never change because this is the way it is.'

.....then why aren't we still using rocks instead of M-16s?
  
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12-07-04

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I see. So, your reasoning is 'This will never change because this is the way it is.'

.....then why aren't we still using rocks instead of M-16s?
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12-07-04

Well if you can't explain it in words, by all means draw away.
  
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12-08-04

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Well if you can't explain it in words, by all means draw away.
I'm talking about human nature, you're talking about weapons. The weapon doesn't matter. The capacity for intelligent thought and creativity to improve the weapon doesn't matter. Those things can't trump some of the more animal instincts.
  
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12-08-04

The weapon does matter, since it is a reflection not only of the mentality but the fact that we are capable of adjusting to new and radical ideas.


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The weapon does matter, since it is a reflection not only of the mentality but the fact that we are capable of adjusting to some new and radical ideas.
I fixed it.
  
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12-13-04

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I'm talking about human nature, you're talking about weapons. The weapon doesn't matter. The capacity for intelligent thought and creativity to improve the weapon doesn't matter. Those things can't trump some of the more animal instincts.
Nonsense. We trump animal instincts ALL THE TIME. Well I do anyway, I can't speak for you. Why I am currently not out and about either a) foraging for food or b) sniffing girls' arses? Because I am in control of such instincts. Not all people form gangs and fight each other. They have control over that instinct. What is absolutely clear is that if you consciously decide not to control that instinct then it is very unlikely that you will.


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Nonsense. We trump animal instincts ALL THE TIME. Well I do anyway, I can't speak for you. Why I am currently not out and about either a) foraging for food or b) sniffing girls' arses? Because I am in control of such instincts. Not all people form gangs and fight each other. They have control over that instinct. What is absolutely clear is that if you consciously decide not to control that instinct then it is very unlikely that you will.
We still forage for food. We go to work, get money, then go to the designated food foraging facility, the grocery store.

You don't sniff girl's asses? In public, when first meeting a girl, we talk, but aside from the more civilized method, it still amounts to sniffing a girl's ass.
  
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12-16-04

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We still forage for food. We go to work, get money, then go to the designated food foraging facility, the grocery store.
Did we have any of that in the stone age?

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You don't sniff girl's asses? In public, when first meeting a girl, we talk, but aside from the more civilized method, it still amounts to sniffing a girl's ass.
No, Synikul. Sticking your nose down close to a girls ass and sniffing it amounts to sniffing a girls ass. Whether or not you do that is a consious choice.
  
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12-16-04

Plus to forage is to search, we don't really search for food, we just select it, since its all there in front of us.

Heck, I even do my grocery shopping online.

Tens of thousands of years of social evolution surprisingly have changed things.


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12-16-04

Well, plus its a bit silly to be able to argue on the one hand that we're better than savages now and on the other that we'll never change.


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