Just been quoting from Laviticus in another thread on homosexuality. Isn't that just proof of the Old Testament being an utter bunch of crap. Jesus would roll over in his grave...hmm.

To each their own. Judgment is different from observation though. If you noticed the judgment is people are ignorant if they don't agree with me.

Religion is however sometimes misused. If everyone went to the same church there might not be anyone to pick on.

As the same would apply if no one followed a religion.

we lost the sense of a absolute wrong and right and dont take accountability or responsiblities for our actions and usually blame it on a disorder or some other type of condition and instead give our own versions of whats right and wrong in this society

but aren't our 'own versions' the only valid perspectives in our 'own universe'?

Often people can look at the same thing and see two different things. Communication helps see the other point of view. It takes less time to understand both sides and get closer to the truth, if you are open to it.

Are you sure?
If communication was the solution, there wouldn't be non tolerant people.

Sometimes I feel that to be so understanding to every aspect, concept and perspective I become wishy-washy with confusion and no longer have any opinion or passion.

I feel that way too. If you always consider everyone else and can't deal with consiquences, just keep your mouth shut. Then after you do, even worse things happen, so it is better to try and tackle problems as they happen. Why not? There is a small chance it really does help to communicate.

actually, i think its more that communication allows you to compromise both perspectives into something that works for both.

There are so many people who don't know how to communicate. It can become so frustrating, usually I just shut down.

Communication can encourage tolerance only in people who already possess the quality.

its like we thrown morality out the window and got rid of the notion that there no real absolute right and wrong and we need to get back on the right path and show a zero tolerance for sin whether its homosexuality or adultery!As most secular humanists hate the bible cause it draws bright lines in the sand on what is right and what is wrong in a society when we throw out the word of god!

Given the fact that Christianity is such a dominating religion in the world and looking at the present state of chaos in the world, I doubt very much relying further on something which has proved to not be for the benefit of every living man is going to solve society's problems. And further more, given the diversity of nationalities across the world, one cannot try to enforce one standard and one ideology; it not only disregards individuality but also causes the type of tension and resultant wars we see today with Religious differences. If we wish to base morals on the entirety of Biblical content I think we may end up in a worse off state than we already are.

actually, i hate the bible because it bases its morality on an unprovable idea...

but this is not a thread for discussing Christianity... you can have morality without having religion... lets stick to the pure philosophy, okay Trib... save the religion for RELIGION board. thank you.

Pure christianity, i think, lies in the new testement. It has been raped hard by the old and by its preachers.

If you view a single world religion like einstien viewed his theory of a single world power, it doesn't seem so wrong, to me anyway.

As some of you might have experienced or not corruption is the meaning of society. The individual can not help but be influenced by a herd mentality, if he interacts, criticizes or argues in relation with them. Christians themselves believe in this holy grail of private inspection, yet their hypocrisy affects even this. I inform myself on humanity's faults, not to create for myself an ideal but to completely dissassociate myslef with it-abbreveation of kierkegaard

first part... knock it off... this is philosophy, not religion.

second part... okay then.

Errant, ya can't really get away from religion when talking of individual morality because most morals come from religious instruction. I grew up in a 'Christian moral coded family' even though we didn't do the church thing. Even now I still have to fight to work out in my head what is right and what is indoctrinated.

Therefore, to throw off what someone else is telling you to do and trying to make you do, you should atleast voice your ideas first. Anyone can pick up a bible today and read, however, most prefer to have someone else tell them about it. It leaves an open door for confusion or even worse, cover-ups.

In the United States everyone talks about the red tide. There is a whole list of actions people can take when faced a dominating government that are peacefull in the United States.

If the oposition is the only voicing their concerns, then they win eventually. No one really wanted to support abortion and now one state has done something to basically outlaw it in their state. In a matter of years it will go to a state superior court. After that other states around them have to start complying in their own states, unless there are already laws in place that are against it.

It's like the Clean Air Act. Everyone was like that's just those fruity Californians. Now it is enforced through most of the nation. Wake up! Ignoring it hasn't made anything go away.

That would be true if people actually communicated.

That's right.
Between two totally different points of view, there is no place for communication.