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Not top quality work, but hey, free avatars.

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03-21-04

Do you really believe that liberals are keeping back such potential horrors from occuring?


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03-21-04

I believe liberals were a big force in the end of slavery and in the push for civil rights. I believe the KKK tends to be made up of conservatives. I believe that liberals are less likely to use nuclear weapons. I believe that burning people at the stake is more of a conservative tactic. I also believe that these, like most parody, are humorous and not to be taken too seriously.


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That's interesting, and you know this how? I'd be very interested to see such information.
  
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I believe liberals were a big force in the end of slavery and in the push for civil rights. I believe the KKK tends to be made up of conservatives. I believe that liberals are less likely to use nuclear weapons. I believe that burning people at the stake is more of a conservative tactic. I also believe that these, like most parody, are humorous and not to be taken too seriously.

You'd be amazed how many racists are socialists or believers in some variety of left-wing politics. Check out any white power message board, you'll see it for yourself.
  
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03-21-04

JLB, you do realize that the Republican and Democratic parties that we know today did not exist during the civil war, right? They've had several throughout our country's history but they've changed.


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You'd be amazed how many racists are socialists or believers in some variety of left-wing politics. Check out any white power message board, you'll see it for yourself.
Which again will only apply if your opinion of left wing politics is the same as it seems to be in parts of the US. I see more right wingers than left wingers on the few places like that I have been.


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03-21-04

Liberal does not mean "Democrat." A liberal is a progressive.


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03-21-04

In fact, most "liberals" don't even like the Democratic party.


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JLB, you do realize that the Republican and Democratic parties that we know today did not exist during the civil war, right? They've had several throughout our country's history but they've changed.

The Republican Party was founded by Abraham Lincoln, and he was President during the entire civil war. The Republican Party was founded on an anti-slavery platform, against the pro-slavery Democrats.


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On July 6, 1854, in Jackson, Mich., the Republican Party formally organized itself by holding its first convention, adopting a platform and nominating a full slate of candidates for state offices. Other states soon followed, and the first Republican candidate for president, John C. Frémont, ran in 1856 with the slogan "Free soil, free labor, free speech, free men, Fremont."http://www.ncgop.org/reference/history.html
The Democrat Party was founded in 1792.


So you are wrong. Both parties existed during the Civil War, but only one was an anti slavery party.



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In fact, most "liberals" don't even like the Democratic party.

Then why is it full of liberals?



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03-21-04

Well this thread is no fun with no JLB on the boards. *mourns*


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03-21-04

A party called titled "Democrat" was indeed created back then....but I do seem to recall that the actual structure if it changed a great deal through the years...


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Well this thread is no fun with no JLB on the boards. *mourns*

Where is he?



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A party called titled "Democrat" was indeed created back then....but I do seem to recall that the actual structure if it changed a great deal through the years...

Since I got the date from the Democratic Party web site, I'd say it's the same party.



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Since I got the date from the Democratic Party web site, I'd say it's the same party.
Fabulous job of purposefuly ignoring the grey area because it suits your argument to do so.


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03-21-04

There's also the little bit about the parties changing over time, and geographical problems (such as, Southern Democrats are traditionally more conservative than Northern Democrats).


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Fabulous job of purposefuly ignoring the grey area because it suits your argument to do so.


It's the same party. They say so on their web site.

If you are saying different, then I would love to see your proof.



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There's also the little bit about the parties changing over time, and geographical problems (such as, Southern Democrats are traditionally more conservative than Northern Democrats).


How did the parties change, and when?



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politically parties are constantly changing
because old members die, and new ones join
  
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