[FriendOfFriend]

in answer to Dyshades post on the other thread:

if as you claim ZyklonB is such an effective method for gassing people, then why dosn't the US government use it in state gas chambers?

....also did you know it takes 30 minutes to boil off HCN from ZyklonB pellets!

[thefr0g]

Because Technology has advanced in 60 years? Just a guess...

[FriendOfFriend]

Originally Posted by thefr0g

Because Technology has advanced in 60 years? Just a guess...

so according to you, it's best to use a more modern but more slower / inefficent method rather than an older but quicker more efficient method?

[thefr0g]

No, according to me thats not what I implied at all. Nice try with the putting words in my mouth thing though.

And I'll bite your little fucking hook here, because I'm drunk and surly.

If the jews and gypsies and gays and whatever else weren't being killed... exactly WHY were they being rounded up and put in the camp? In other words, why are there camps to begin with?

[FriendOfFriend]

Originally Posted by thefr0g

No, according to me thats not what I implied at all. Nice try with the putting words in my mouth thing though.

And I'll bite your little fucking hook here, because I'm drunk and surly.

If the jews and gypsies and gays and whatever else weren't being killed... exactly WHY were they being rounded up and put in the camp? In other words, why are there camps to begin with?

same reason the japanese were rounded up in the US during WW2!

didn't you read the headlines back in 1933, the jews declared war on Germany so effectively all jews in Germany were enemy combatants and under the geneva convention they could be interned.

Germans in Britain were put into camps during WW2!

Italians in Britain were put into camps during WW2!

[thefr0g]

No, I didnt read the headlines back in 1933. I must have been busy doing something else... like being a twinkle in the eye of my grandfather's 12 year old sperm.

[DizzyQViper]

Brittain invented the deathcamps though...

Adolf just got paranoid and figured everything not pure should be killed... that about sums up the reason he put them in deathcamps.
Pity though, Adolf was smart enough to turn a 3rd world country in one of the most powerfull and wellfaring countrys in the world. i gotta give him credit for that...

[FriendOfFriend]

"Another 1916 project was a book entitled The Jews in the Eastern War Zone. Published by the American Jewish Committee, 25,000 copies of this book were sent to the leaders of American thought and the molders of public opinion including President Wilson, members of the Presidential Cabinet and Congress, the press and the magazines, influential men and women everywhere.[64] The book said that Russia has virtually converted an area into a penal settlement, where six million human beings guilty only of adherence to the Jewish faith are compelled to live out their lives in squalor and misery, in constant terror of massacre, subject to the caprice of police officials and a corrupt administration - in short, without legal rights or social status:[65] "a kind of prison with six million inmates, guarded by an army of corrupt and brutal jailers."

The Jews in the Eastern War Zone is an important book from this period because the language in the book is reused extensively by other sources, such as the New York Times. It is important today because it shows what the American Jewish establishment was telling people before the United States entered World War One, as a reading of the introduction and the introduction to the section on Russia shows.[66] This book's concept included the theme that the Jews in eastern Europe were experiencing a unique suffering, that this suffering was to an extent suffered by no others, that they were denied elementary rights denied to no other people, and were the victims of government sponsored persecutions. It even contains the buzz words "six million" and "extermination."


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"As early as 1900, Wise is recorded telling a Zionist gathering that "there are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism" as reported in a New York Times article.[83]"


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[Spikess]

Well how do you explain the fact that my boyfriends grandfather helped to liberate the Death Camps and saw the work of the evil scum who orchestrated it all?
You are a fucking arsehole for even trying to say that one of the most evil things that ever hapened never existed.

[Wicked Lady]

I can sum up all of FriendofFriend's posts in a simpe paragraph:

The Jews are evil. They make shit up. They're responsible for all the woes of the world. And those they didn't cause were perpetuated by the great Liberal machine. Kill. Kill. Kill.

The end.

So we can all stop reading now. It never changes.

[Spikess]

Originally Posted by Wicked Lady

I can sum up all of FriendofFriend's posts in a simpe paragraph:

The Jews are evil. They make shit up. They're responsible for all the woes of the world. And those they didn't cause were perpetuated by the great Liberal machine. Kill. Kill. Kill.

The end.

So we can all stop reading now. It never changes.

probaly would be the best idea, but i just can't stop myself.

[DizzyQViper]

Whats up with the hate against jews anyways? Their always victem of hate throughout the whole history. Anyone has a well fundamented explenation?

Maybe the jews should turn it around and SHOULD start a war for a change.

[Dyshade]

Originally Posted by FriendOfFriend

in answer to Dyshades post on the other thread:

if as you claim ZyklonB is such an effective method for gassing people, then why dosn't the US government use it in state gas chambers?

....also did you know it takes 30 minutes to boil off HCN from ZyklonB pellets!

So your claim is that you do not understand basic chemistry right??

That would make sense regarding that last post.

[Dyshade]

And please; lets not bring up Mr. Leuchter; he is a complete fraud and his "scientific" methods compare to some methods used well over several hundred years ago

[Dyshade]

For some good reading---

""
INSTITUTE OF FORENSIC RESEARCH
In the name of Prof. Dr. Jan Sehn, Krakow
Division of Forensic Toxicology

Krakow, 24 Sept. 1990
Westerplatte 9 / Code 31-033
Tel. 505-44, 592-24, 287-50
Telex 0325213 eksad ...

The hydrocyanic acid (HCN) that is released from the Zyklon B
preparation is a liquid with a boiling point of about 27 degrees
Celsius. It has an acidic character, and therefore forms
compounds with metallic salts, which are known as cyanides. The
salts of alkaline metals (such as sodium and potassium) are
water soluble.

Hydrocyanic acid is a very weak acid, and accordingly its salts
dissolve easily in stronger acids. Even carbonic acid, which is
formed as a reaction of carbon dioxide with water, will dissolve
ferro-cyanide.

Stronger acids, such as sulfuric acids, easily dissolve the
cyanides. The compounds of cyanide ions with heavy metals are
longer lasting. This includes the already mentioned Prussian
blue, although this will also slowly dissolve in an acidic
environment.

Therefore, one can hardly assume that traces of cyanic compounds
could still be detected in construction materials (plaster,
brick) after 45 years, after being subjected to the weather and
the elements (rain, acid oxides, especially sulfuric and
nitrogen oxides). More reliable would be the analysis of wall
plaster [samples] from closed rooms which were not subject to
weather and the elements (including acid rain).

The discovery of hydrocyanic acid compounds in samples of
material which had been subject to the elements can only be
accidental.
""

[Wicked Lady]

Originally Posted by DizzyQViper

Whats up with the hate against jews anyways? Their always victem of hate throughout the whole history. Anyone has a well fundamented explenation?

Maybe the jews should turn it around and SHOULD start a war for a change.

They're still reeling after killing Jesus.

[DizzyQViper]

The romans were jews?

[Wicked Lady]

Someone hasn't read their Bible.

[DizzyQViper]

Nope. A book that has been rewritten a milion times is hardly what you call a reliable source... I do know romans used to adopt the relgions of stuff they conquered so the jews might have killed him indirectly.

[Dyshade]

Roman Documents ar emuch more reliable though and it was the Jewish Priests who brought jesus to the romans asking for his death due to heresy.