i understand, now...i never thought about bush when reviewing the facts those presented for the alternative method of destruction, and the world trade center....but;

last night listening to one of the radio shows on my way to work, some old man called in, relayed a list of war based tragedies including the sinking of the lucitania and pearl harbor, and how our government had a hand in those incidents that inspired world wars, what i found most appaling that rather than blaming our government directly, he said it was the military that had the most to gain from these situations...and actually said they were responsible under the direction of our govenment?

that, i didn't agree with, i don't see how the military would have gained anything...they still had bases closed and a majority of their soldiers are in a foreign land dying...and underfunded for the endeavor, the government sent them to take care of...that i do blame bush for!

i guess i've never given much thought to conspiracy theories...i didn't see how this dealt with aliens, the illumanati or the new world order...but i guess now i can see why some do view it as nothing more, than another conspiracy theory...but i still think this should be something looked deeper into.

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Originally Posted by Dyshade
What about WTC 7?? It fell due to stresses put upon it which were absolutely abnormal. The siesmic shock from the buildings falling had people falling down blocks away.

I think you missed my reply.

Here is someone who is certainly not afraid to name names.

Actually my reply had nothing to do with that at all. Note--- I said the shock of the "buildings falling". Nothing more or less

Conspiracy theories are just that and nothing more--- theories. The reality of what happened was that over 3 thousand people were killed through an act of terror directed at our countrymen and responsibility was taken through a televised/video taped confession by Bin Laden. It does not get more clear cut than that.

hussein is in prison...we're all safe.

Tell that to the 100,000s of people he tortured and murdered.

and they're now murdering and mentally torturing our soldiers...

the american government is rebuilding them for the inconvenience, america is broke, but they're getting a whole new government.

...that still doesn't keep america safe from terrorists, wasn't that the reason for going to war with iraq?

What keeps us safe form terrorists is wire taps and detention of enemy combatants.

What doesnt keep us safe from terrorists is an open border policy with Mexico the liberals are spear heading.

Our soldiers are there to do a job, they know the risks, thats why theyre great people. Theyre doing what they think is right and theyre dying with honor. We pay respect to that, well most of us do.

The rest of you who love to make fun of soldiers and poke holes in what thier doing spit on them and thier graves. We're not broke... saying the USA is broke is like saying Bill Gates is broke because he lost a billion dollars, yeah sure its a fucking ton of money but he aint exactly clipping coupons.

Keep your naysaying to yourself, its really pretty loathsome. Saddam is behind bars and now he cannot mass murder innocents anymore, but that doesnt matter right? Because BUSH blahblhablah *drool froth*

why do they have to die for another country while our citizens struggle to have health care needs met...america, the citizens are broke, well those who are not in bed with the government are...or have you failed to see this?

don't mix not supporting bush for not respecting soldiers, why is it bad or considered anti american by bush zealots...wanting the soldiers to be home, tending to america...and their families, rather than dying for people who could care less about them?

what interests does the average american have for iraq that it should be a priority, over the people who live and need help here?

why should i care about thousands of people a world away who could never do for themselves, what americans can, or her government promises to do, countries that have done nothing but hate americans while taking our money, and our government keeps giving them more money...

and why do i have to support a president i do not believe cares to help the average american, live in america, even those who are soldiers?

You know what would make us safe from terrorists? Shutting down borders, allowing no one in or out, shutting down the internet. Putting cameras in our home and assigning brainwashed drones to monitor all activity. Giving everyone a daily dose of medication to keep us docile and easily manageable. Shutting down all trade or communication with foreigners, ally or no.

SAFE DOES NOT EQUAL FREE, FREE DOES NOT EQUAL SAFE.

(Edited for content) Soldiers do care about what they're doing, they know (as do I) that they are doing a great service to Iraq and to the world. And the majority of Iraqis respect them for it and are thankful.


(Excellent conversation; lets not ruin it with personal attacks.)

tell them that when they're being shot down in the streets...i'm sure it will make them and their family feel, more complete.

I truly, truly loathe you.

Jesus fucking christ do you people ever learn? A FREE AND NON PSYCHOTIC IRAQ IS IN OUR INTERESTS! The TERRORISTS want a Caliphat in the mid east. With a Democratic and free Strong gold smack in the center of it they cannot wage an unending fucking jihad against the west, they are busy fighting one and other instead. GET IT NOW?

Its the SAME fucking way the British and Romans kept themselves safe for so long, divide and conquor.

Thier family are irrelevant, Cindy Sheehans son went BACK to the war after he was dismissed for a 2nd tour, now she dishonors him an everything he fought for on a personal level by being a big huge turd.

and what happened to the british and romans?

i thought we were in an on topic forum?

I knew you'd bring that up you whiny cunt.

The British spread thier influence far too wide for tight control and as such when they lost power they lost it in spades.

The Romans are still alive and strong living in or near the Vatican. Hiding out as Catholics and waiting for thier time to spring

Now there is a conspiracy........