hello everybody i am looking for some grimores that have to do with summoning. if you guys could give me some websites i would really appreceate it. but any ways i dont need any links to d/l the goetia

Why would you want such information? Summoning is dangerous if you have no idea what you're doing......and even when you do, it's easy to call what you want, but a BITCH to get rid of them......

I'm going with Mets here. If you have no experience, I'm not going to suppport this.

I'd recommend doing the simplest spells first, however.


As for grimoires: I saw some that were heartbreakingly lovely, and had the added benefit of detachable pages that you could use to fill like a notebook......these were hard black leather, silver, with the pentacle and silver/pewter hasps on it....it was about 500 pounds (English).........

Hmmm... If you desire so much to have entertain trouble, and get into the realms of summoning there are three differing subjects you can run searches on... or look for information on.

Necromancy.
Demonology.
And finally Seances, or weegee boards ( both are the simplest and most effective way to stupidity).

I used to do all sorts of summoning and shit all the time and all sorts of mad things happen to your mind but I wouldn't say it's harmful. Much of it is about tricking your brain to see what's already there that you don't usualy see..it's just some of those things you'l look at won't be very pleasant.

The best spirits to start with are as far out into nature as possible on sunny days when it's not too hot. Go alone or with at most two friends (open minded) to find a secluded area in a forest or in the shelter of whatever geography is around and make offerings to the driadic types etc despite what people think the spirits of nature are not being killed off by man's destruction of the forest they're just being pushed into denser spots.

And no they won't give you much but if you play your cards right you can gain some level of protection against the other kind of spirits that people are generaly more interested in these days. The wisdom of the forest is fairly simple when it comes to any malevolent force..if you can fight it for sure..fight..if you aren't sure...run.

Yeah, but it's like the song goes:

"You can run, but you can't hide."

sorry for not responding sooner but ive been buisy, but any ways why does it seem that everytime summoning comes up necromancy and demon stuff is said? im not trying to summon demons im trying to summon good natured spirits well ne ways i have found the sigils and descriptions of the elemental rulers and some angels from the sephorath
another thing ... i do indeed have experiance in the occult and another thing i usually find out about as much information as possible when im trying to do a specific type of magick

o and another thing spirits arent neccesarely hard to getrid of ( i banished what i think was a spirit b4)

The Arts of Summoning are Necromancy,Demonology and the Goetia, if you truly want to learn to summon anything, it is a good idea to look into those. Mostly becuase they are profesional summoning magicks, its the focus of their expertise, what they dont know about it, it aint worth knowing.

well not everybody in the goetia is neccessarly a demonic being like bael and astaroth but the main reason why i am asking for grimoires on summoning isnt because of the rituals, its because of the names sigils and description of spirits

For that information it would be much easier to find information on those at say Ceremonial Magick pages. As well as possibly religious Ones, it might even be a good idea to run a search on Spirits, or Summoning Spirit across the occult search engines, google and altavista, yahoo only if you have no other resort.

heh kool thanx

alright i found a good 1 that i downloaded a long time ago the arbatel of magici suposed that i should have read it

o and hey does ne body know where i could find some good occult/gothic backgrounds and pics? im trying to make a website

You really need the the cult book. It has the work of the Black Monk in it. It has a black and white cover.

By the way they are all around everywhere. You are fooling yourself if you think what your summoning is helpless to summoning poweres. FYI.

whos the author and publisher?, it sounds preety interesting i also looked into this book called "the magicians companion" its published Llewellyn it had some information on about everything

I don't know about that. I want to build a home one day that is a fortress protecting me from evil (sin). Going out side might be different. Hope it doesn't lead to some compulsive disorder where I stay at home all the time.

well thats different

It would just be a place that makes it somewhat easier to not sin, but it's still up to the owner. I see drying lines and many bathrooms, a couple of washer and dryers, nothing really stand out mystical.

oic sorta like a regular house maybe away from ppl? a place where you're basic needs r met? so u dont really get angry or envy stuff?