Dyshade,

I may have given you the wrong impression with my message.
Let me break it down to you.

I AM a hypocrite. I wish that I wasn't. Unfortunately, as a human I am subject to hypocrisy just like everyone else.

I am not afraid to let the Truth cut me, and I let other christians hold me accountable. Does that make me perfect or better than you?

NO!

I am better than noone! I am just free. I was not made perfect when I became a christian, and God would be better off without my fumbled attempts at pleading with everyone here to listen to the Truth, but I believe that I was called to this Forum.

If my earlier response upset you, then I apologize.
But stop whining about things that neither you or I can change.
As many times as Sam and I have told you about the things that make it easy to identify a Christian, and how the people you keep bringing up can't measure up to those standards.

Christians do not believe there is anything you can do to earn heaven, AND IT CANNOT BE FORCED! It is your choice, and the only reason we even keep arguing about the little stuff that you keep bringing up is because you are afraid that I am not representing a pack of lies, and you are trying to disprove everything that we as Christians believe in.
And you can't.

You are afraid that what we keep trying to tell you is more true than anything else.
The Truth isn't relative, and neither is God.
Jesus Christ died for you dyshade. No matter what you say or do, that fact cannot be changed.
I am sorry if this piece of information won't fit into the world you have made for yourself.
It is not and never will be subject to change.

Once again, I am sorry for offending you by calling you a hypocrite. I am not perfect and it isn't my place to judge you.

Fare thee well

Evermansaved writes:

"Christians do not believe there is anything you can do to earn heaven, AND IT CANNOT BE FORCED!"

my humble response to this is simple ... bullshit!

Everman ... ever heard of Mormons? THEIR belief is if you are NOT a mormon ... you WILL NOT earn heaven ... cut and dried. period. in other words "if you aint mormon - you aint shit." Matter of fact Everman ... i beg to differ - but dont most christian religions believe that if you DONT follow their particular "laws" you will not go to heaven ... ??

And why are you letting other christians hold you accountable? are you not accountable for your own actions? Dyshade is no more trying to disprove everything that christians believe in any more than you and Sam are trying to convince Dyshade that the christian way is the only way to believe ... hence the mindset of 99.99 percent of christians.

You are correct on one count ... you are not perfect - neither am I - neither is Dyshade and guess what???? neither is Sam ... and you are right ... it isnt your place to judge ... but isnt that what the majority of the popluation on earth does?? Example: hmmm ... why are you judging me Everman? Your first "instinct" is that I am wrong in my thinking ... is it not? Isn't that in fact "judging" someone before you have all the facts? just a question ... no offense intended.

one last question .... Red Meat ... did I hit a nerve with my last post????

evermansaved
"I am a hypocrite"

Exactly my point and yet you argue further....
I understood your message....

I do not whine....
Is it whining to ponder exactly who should be held accountable for actions based on religion that lead to atrocities???
If so than yes I do whine and will continue to do so.....
If a Supposed Christian is known to have committed an act in the name of thier God which leads to anothers Death how are we the non-believers supposed to tell the difference???
I do not follow your Gods law.....
Yes I have chosen to follow a more realistic set of moral codes....
ones which do not lead to immoral acts which are considered Divinely attributed.....

Once again... I do not whine....
I pity you your ignorance....

Ahh the "MORMONS" (note: will be refered to as MORmONS in the future.) Say did you know that they may have baptized your dead relitives into there beliefs so that the dearly(most often) departed may enter there heaven? Hell, if you die next week, you should get your baptism by the end of the year!!! fancy that HEH even DYSHADE would become a MORmON. A fully accredited christian religion!!!!! (also the only one ever to make the fortune 500!!!)
Hmmm, you are a ruthlessbitch aren't you.. jumpin everyone like that..
hehe i like the entrance

Say Sam....

If all is the will of God(yours). Why did he/she/it/they(trinity) screw up my computer?
What love is there in attempting to make me angry?

LOL and if God`s so good how come I`m ugly?

Hey if I became a Mormon Sam would be damned by my doctrine...
right?? He is a Southern Baptist.....
hrrrmm...
It certainly would be a different argument altogether were this the case....

Yo Red,

Didn't you know God has a sence of humor?


Sam

What exactly would make this a different argument Dy?
Just curious.

Sincerely,
Samichking

If I was a Mormon... hehe

Oh sorry, I misread your post up there.....MY BAD. Yeah, then you WOULD say I was the one who was dammned
Dad burn it....did you go and get all Mormon on me? LOL

Sam

Well, we could all die and find out!!! LOL

OH, and by there belief, you would be MORmON too Sam!!!! They would rebaptize you into theres

So, would that mean I would never get to take off my "holy" underwear? Nah.

Awww, Sam... Was that a discresionary mini-sin?
Or am i wrong? hahahaha

But I`m so fugly *sniffle*.

HOLY USED UNDERWEAR BATMAN!

HEHEHE nice Red..

hey, just remember red its that free will that "god" gave us that made u and i ugly...

the free will for the beautiful people to only sin with their similarly beautiful friends and leave the gene pool with my mangles traits...

free will argghhhhh...

fuck your god... he had mary magdeline to reem out...

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ruthless... she/he/it... who cares? either way it sucks. god would either be stupid and warlike or bitchy and coniving (these are the worse qualities i know and i dont mean to insult but)...

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ever... yes u are a hypocrite... no humanity isnt... get a dictionary asshole. i dont back on my word... i am not a hyocrite through action... i may have conflicting thoughts, but what else is a mind for but evaluating those thoughts and choosing accordingly to fit ur path...

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sam... i have nothing to say to u right now other than "hey" and "ur wrong" (the wrong bit just on principle mind u) and "but its ok to be wrong... ur only human"

Oh Errant .... never an insult ... thank you!

I would much rather be bitchy and conniving than stupid ... ooops! silly me! I forgot "warlike" .... there's that word again ... you know that thing that has gone on throughout the centuries to determine who's got the biggest "wanker"???? or who's god is the right/true/only god???? ya know ... here's a little somthin' for ya to chew of fellas ... the greatest love of all can not be felt until you feel the love inside ones self first .... hmmmmm