why do you care?

nobody deserves to die because of their clothing choices - wow, way to state the obvious. I just dont care one way or the other - she could be a chav, emo, punk kid, preppy or any other "subculture affiliate" and I still couldnt give two shits about some chick who got smacked down. - shit happens, the strong survive - the weak make way for the strong. fuck her and her black lipstick.

Remember that when you're walking home one night and get jumped by a bunch of crack heads and killed for the $10 in your wallet (yeah you had a good night), and your last dying thought is "yup I deserve this for not being stronger and that these Crackheads obviously deserve my money and I should die because I'm weak. Thanks for pointing this out to me God..."

Yeah that's really the strong surviving ain't it...

ok jobe, miaow..... explain to me why I should care then.

why should any of us care - if its the loss of human life, or the senselessness of it all.... I can think of much better things to discuss and demonstrate that point than some chick getting mugged.

My post has nothing to do with caring, I too feel nothing as I don't have any connections of emotional enganglement with the person in question.

My post was in reference to your stupid statement that the strong survive. Tell that to the 6'9" 240lbs Ex-boxing champ that was shot in the face in London a few months back for politely asking someone not to smoke....

I think you are confusing evolutionary strength with physical strength.... not the same thing.

I think you're confusing old saying's with reality...

no im not, she couldn't survive, nature has a way of weeding out the mistakes- she didnt have the skills necessary to deal with a life threatening situation.

that may be cold hearted and cynical - but shes fucking dead. and im still cold hearted and cynical.

have a great day.

There's a big fecking difference between being beaten to death by a mob and have the skills in life to survive. Obviously you're too much of a moron to understand, so hopefully your theory will hold true in your case...

we can only hope.

If I recall he packs heat. Most likely he will end up at the police station explaining why he had to defend himself with lethal force and send 3 scummy crackheads screaming to the bowels of hell.

If he asked someone not to smoke, he deserved to be shot.

As to what Manifesto was saying... ya now evolutionarily speaking, you gotta be pretty fucking stupid to walk through any public park at the end of the day with the sun setting. Its where the majority of misfits, homeless crazies and drug dealers spend their time doing their thing.

No need to turn the whole thing into an evolutionary debate. Manifesto doesn't care that some chick died, so be it. I don't agree with his assessment that she was too weak to live and THAT'S why he doesn't care. But again, no point in arguing with him. He won't budge. Anyone that's friends with Sik Simon on purpose obviously has no morals or taste.

A better solution would be to ban it; it's effluent disguised as media (which is why I was curious as to why their article was actually more informative than the one in The Times). It's a shame that most of the goths you've met have had some annoying, negative characteristics. Taking into account all the goths I've met and all the so called normal people, I've found much, much lower negativity in the goths than in the 'normal' ones. Maybe they're happier because they're being themselves instead of following the majority, which the sheeplike members of the population are probably aware of as something that they don't exercise (being powerless and unoriginal unwillingly would be bad enough; being so of your own choosing must be miserable, even if only on a subconscious level). Of all the kids that I went to school, college and university with it was the good looking, expensively dressed and supposedly perfect ones that self harmed, attempted suicide and ended up with drug problems and police records.

you just made my motherfucking day - thanks hun.

Every once in awhile you can find a gem in a pile of shit..... this however does not mean you should spend your days digging through piles of shit

I just don't understand why some violence gets national attention but some doesn't. this is a brutal crime. a hate crime. i was cringing as i read it