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haha, we did so too do it by attacking other countries. Vietnam? the Iran Contras?



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06-01-04

those wars were after our status as the big-dog, not before.....so, that argumant is flawed

and besides, the French and the UN were in vietnam before the US......we went in, with joint UN whatnot, to stop the spread of communism.....that war wasn't inheritantly a US thing....though we went over-board with it....but hey, blame nixon and whatnot for it

as for the Iran contras.....desert storm was okay, but i agree that this war "Iraqi Freedom" is a little overboard......however, america was pissed off from 9/11 so we had to go for someone, so why not go fucking get saddam.....do you seriously give a fuck?! i dont


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actually, i'd blame Johnson...


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Aeternus--the perception changes, but does the fact change? do people NEED to eat more now to be healthy than they did 30 years ago? philosophically, maybe, practically? absolutely not.
Of course not. Our species has survived it's cavedwelling times... We could all go back and live in caves, wielding flint-tipped spears and throwing them at deer ('xept that there's not enough caves and deer anymore). Point is, we do not wish to do that anymore. We consider it to be... primitive. Old-fashioned. Apart from a few tourists to past times, noone wants to live that way.

A basic minimum to survive just doesn't cut it for modern man anymore. Perhaps that's why there's a lot of unrest among people who do live that way.


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06-02-04

and it doesn't matter....survival is however it can be achieved....and we've been doing it quite nicely.....maybe we go overboard....but we believe in a system of controll and laws and better to be prepared


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prepared for what?



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who knows......thats why we must be prepared


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that's terrible reasoning



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and yet, it would appear so true........the sun will not necessarily rise tomorrow, and so similar is the fact that any number of catastrophes could happen tomorrow......horrible blackouts: generators......fires: fire trucks......countires threating to disagree with america: ten thousand nukes shoved up their asses......and space.....why shouldn't we try and seek out space.....it is a part of lives in the sense that we are a part of it.....why not see what it is, at least.....maybe it's grande


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that's true with or without technology.



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yeah.........but if technology helps us.....?


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help us what?



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oh come on.......


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no, I want you to see that there is no great threat. your cultural fear is for nothing. day-to-day, yes, there are things to be afraid of. but our culture is obsessed with conquering fears we just dream up.



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06-03-04

that is true......but along the way, through those fears, everyone know and then we find something useful......a means to an end, if you like.....


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