I just want to throw out a concept for those of you who are alien conspiracy die hards...the Earth and its governments spends billions of dollars per year searching for extra terrestrial life, or Aliens. We search the stars in vain! For alas, what we have come to know as aliens are not in fact extra terrestrial, but are extra-dimensional. How else do you explain the fact that these beings allegedly appear from nowhere then vanish the same way? Please give me your input on this...Also the big question on religion. Some of my associates along with a good portion of the human race, believe that humans were put here by aliens for research. And to prevent us from becoming too advanced, they gave us some provocations to slow us down. What if race was created by the aliens tampering with genetics? And what if religion was placed here for controversy? Respond to this as well, please...Thanx...

Well, then they did a pretty fucking good job.

But advanced technology could explain it all as well.

And they'd still be extra-terrestrial in addition to extra-dimensional because they're still not of this earth.

Hmm, if aliens made us who made the aliens? Okay, I think in the future we're gonna look like aliens (evolution) I mean people are getting taller, thinner, smarter and stuff like that. I think aliens are just more advanced and that they are just a few thousand years in front of us.

Or maybe some aren't? I bet that somewhere, there are aliens sitting around a campfire grunting at each other and eating the day's kill. Its so narrow to just think that they're all advanced past us. There have got to be an infinite amount of species. After all, the universe is infinite in all directions, supposidely...

To the reply that said that there were extra-terrestrial in addition to extra-dimensional... The whole concept is that the supposed aliens are from this planet. The only difference is that they exist on a totally different frequency of existence, than us. As such it can be applied to ghosts as well...Witches, well some of us are known as talented mediums, and we can see past our frequency, thus see ghosts. Others see aliens, this is because both entities are in different frequencies. Watch the movie stargate and think of it as travelling to different frequencies. The theory of dimensional frequency is a very hard one to grasp, and is very complex to explain.

Hmm, maybe we're not really suppose to know about aliens and stuff. I think is not meant for us to know for sure that's why scientists can't find the answers ... ??? Argh, i'm talking a load of crap again !!!

They're still not on the exact same planet as us. Theirs exists in a different plane of existance. They are not of THIS earth...

Because who's to say that things didn't develop differently in these other dimensions? Its not the same place. Similar, but not the same.

I see what u mean

I as well see what you mean but again I like to hear input from all points of view...that is why I put these concepts out there, so all can have a say...as can I...

believe it or not, thats always been my theory on aliens..i ve always thought of the possibility that we were created by aliens and were left here on this planet for experimentation and observation.
but i try not to give it too much thought anyways....it never gets me anywhere.

Read the book "Flatland." Great.

Its a common theory, really...

there's also time dimensions that can go into it.

i've thought about this and religion as well. realms, dimensions, planes, all the same.

about the searching in vain for extra terrestrial life, it's possible we don't know how to look properly. as in the fault is not in the object [existant or non existant] but with our receptors.

i've mentioned this before, and now again, if something is truely alien to us, why should their existance neccessarily be totally compatable with ours. perhaps we cannot sense them. maybe we do have the right receptors [i mean senses, sight, hearing, taste etc] but their frequencies are so different, we hardly ever pick them up.

That is exactly what I am getting at, also a new injection on the alien subject. Now some believe that aliens actually come from another planet. If this is so who says that they have to come from far, far away? It is said that for another planet to have life it must be fairly equal to the mass and density of our planet. Some of my friends and I hypothesized that this planet could be located at the other side of the sun... it would not be visible to us ever because of its proportions. Eg. Earth=*, planet 'X'=x, Sun= _____
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the planets would never meet because of similar orbits and masses. And we cannot see through the sun obviously, sattelites that orbit the sun do not take pictures of apparent 'empty space', so thus the planet could not be seen. Or if this does not appeal to you, how about an 80% chance of there being life on Europa, and the knowledge of there being liquid water underneath the surface of Ice?

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that's interesting.

there's also the idea that since the earth is made up of mostly water, rather than land, there could be civilisations living in the depths. deeper than we can go since your lungs would collapse long before we could glimpse it.

sometimes when looking at animals especially ones i've not encountered before, they do look really fantastical and alien. i think to myself, fuck! whoever made this is fucking genius...or on some mad drugs...

That raises a curious point... It seems as though life has been manufactured. Think...examine how an animals limbs move, think of our receptors, doesn't it all seem too 'fluke' that our joints are nearly friction free,for every part of our body, if mankind was capable of reproducing these in a factory setting we would live in a strange world... Go pick up an egg or even a cigarette, observe how perfect and fluid the motion of your arm is, notice how your receptors sense how much pressure is being exerted on that object without breaking or crushing it. It is truly amazing to see how our could possibly have been manufactured. Our brains alone have more power than any computer out there, and this is through evolution? I should like to think not, there is a purpose out there for us, we use but ten percent of our brain in our lives, through evolution we should have just enough brain power to get us through. Why do we have such mental capacity? I am not saying that we were definately manufactured, but humans are certainly out of the ordinary when compared to other mammals.

Yeah, I know what you mean...but i think we'd have detected that...a lot can be inferred by gravitational pull and such...and this planet would make an obvious pull on the sun to suggest its existance.