Okay if this theory is correct where is the proof. Think of the greatest atrocities committed in history, yep I believe man out weighs woman on the 'atrocities committed' scale.

If your theory is correct, then woman is also responsible and has the potential of creating the greatest good.

By the way what about all the human monsters having fathers.

There are so many holes in this equation that it doesn't.

I think he was being speculative rather than voicing a hard fact..... women are just as capable of committing atrocities as men are.... though you are probably correct that men have had thier hand in most....

I don't even agree with that. God, I sound like such a bitch, but, statistically men commit by far, more crimes against humanity and atrocities against children (obviously not all of them) then women ever could. I know it's an unpopular thought but are we getting so 'politically correct' that we ignore the facts. We have to identify the issues to be able to find a solution to them.
We have an innate problem that we need to evolve through.

Hmm... I dunno about that.... not by far... though men certainly do commit more atrocities than women.... women do not lag far behind.... look at those wacko Mothers who slaughter all thier children.... evil does not know any gender... every soul is susceptible to dark thoughts of violence....

If you're speaking historically, men have indeed had more of a hand in atrocities, but that could be simply be due to the fact that women were in no positions of power (except perhaps Egypt) due to male opression. The capacity for comitting atrocities in either sex is shoddy, but it seems that it depends upon the circumstances, one of which could simply be an abundance of testosterone in an individual.

Just out of curiosity, Xully, I want to know what it is that you have that makes you believe you are better than us "monkeys." No, I am not of the opinion that humans are the greatest thing out there, rather, i think all lifeforms should be judged on how much they serve a purpose for greater good. What is greater good? Life. Life that excludes self-destruction or wrongful consumption.

Thanks Dyshade and Phage, I thought I'd be shunned for my vocalising.

I agree with you Phage, on the power issue, if women had more power they probably would commit more atrocities. But we won't know until it happens, hey? Testosterone does seem to have an influence as well, but no excuse.

Dyshade, not to make an excuse for the behaviour either ,but women who kill their children usually kill themselves too, more an instance of mental illness then a power play. The motivations seem to be different, not always, but generally.

If you want to judge a species on how it serves a purpose for the greater good, and life, we'd proabably be under amoebas. Humans are possibly the most destructive force on the planet, not only towards your planet, but to ourselves. It's like chopping off a branch that you happen to be standing on.

Well, judging a species or a member of a species, as i meant, doesn't mean that the judgement you pass will have any effect. That's one fo the biggest problems, we judge a member of another species and MAKE our judgements have effect through brute force and propogation of ideas.

Humanity is a changing, not a destructive force. And it will probably craft more worlds then this one...

The voice of hope and reason.

i agree with the concept that because women have never been in a position of power and why atrocities are never attributed to females, however when a female does decide to commit some atrocity, she can always pale males in their comparisons...so while women aren't recognized as being monsters, i think they have the capability for a more cruel aspect to anything negative they want to achieve.

If we don't change our mentality, it will proabably be scything them down. Perhaps I'm too cynical.

I don't know, I tend to believe because we talk and discuss things so much more, reason rears it's head before an atrocity is committed, otherwise my ex would have been annihilated long ago. Sure we can think up better plans of destruction but then we also see the consequences more readily.

Are we talking about sexes in reference to the way they are NOW, or as they are. Because as they are, any member of either sex is capable, given proper circumstances, I think that should be a given.

i agree guy, i'm just pointing out that women tend to be more..subtle in their atrocities. Men go full blown for glory, women like to play with their...victims.

as for reasoning the seriousness of "bad things" i don't think that has anything to do with sex at all...i actually find most women more irrational and emotional when angry...not to mention all the backstabbing they pull off when they are being vindictive...men just get pissed and go to the bar to bitch with other men

'Men go to the bar and bitch with other men'....you're kidding me? What snags do you hang with? More likely to go to the bar and fight with someone who pissed them off. Then again nationality does also play it's part. I'm talking aussie male...it's hit first have a beer after and you definately don't talk to your mates about arguments with your woman, that would be considered a weakness.

I have found some women believe that to be 'equal' to men they must take on some aggressive characteristics, missing the whole point.

Sure Jordyn, women can be scathingly evil verbally but are much less likely to then pick up a gun, go to her ex's house and blow him and his family away.

I don't believe one can assume male and females are capable of the same destructive atrocities without the stats to back it up.....even today, Guy.

I'm not sure, I think some cultures encourage that sort of thing more than others...

snags? snags that treat me well i guess...maybe it is a regional thing, or just dependent on the kind of men in our lives, i've never been around any super violent men. Since when do people need a reason to go to a bar and start fights, some just enjoy it, I know females who do the same thing, i don't think it proves men are more prone to evil than women, just the society they are influenced by.

both sexes are prone to evil acts, they are just different how they can pull them off...men have always been encouraged to be more physically aggressive than women.

For sure, it does have a lot to do with culture. You know what SNAG means? (Sensitive New Age Guy) right. I suppose I've grown up surrounded by men's men, the boys club is still rife in the state of Queensland. No violence, just the point of view that women are not worth listening to. Emotion/feelings are weakness, all that shite.

I was reading an article about 'honour killings' in Jordan. (This particular story showed the similarity between the Muslim men and Catholic men in the community, condoning each others actions) 5000 women a year are murdered in honour killings every year in Jordan alone, whether they had still been virgins, had been raped or abused or just suspected of impropriety. The male family members responsible are never convicted or arrested, it is a common occurrence and totally accepted culturally. This is one countries stats, you also have Pakistan, India, most of the middle east.

The revelation I had about this was that women can't combat it alone. Men need to stand up and fight for this cause in a society where women are given no voice. A few good men? These issues are so low on world agendas, why?, because they are not as important issues to the ruling males?

I get concerned that I sound like a raving feminist and people automatically turn off, but I don't understand it? It's a fact. How can women be considered of the same value as men if the majority of women in the world still survive (or don't) under this shroud? If it were a racial/religious issue would we be more outraged? I believe so. Where are our heroes when we need them?