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I have been trying to study philosophy since it was pointed out what a fascinating realm of knowledge it can be...however these two concepts keep eluding me...what is the difference...I mainly come across the two when reading on idealism vs materialism(Kant)I guess his name should be a way of saying...Kant figure the two out  (see philosophy can be fun, not just wordy) To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Given that I know NOTHING on either of these philosophies(/states of being?). I would dein to hazard a guess based on the names of the two...
Empirical; would seem to suggest that the [being] (?) has a part, a "province" if you will, with reference to "Empirical" as a geographical term, in each "area of Reality" (eg. Time, Space, Aether, whatever...), and is omnipresent in these areas.
Transcendental; on the other hand, would appear to mean that the [being] is not present in ANY of these "areas of Reality", rather being "outside" Reality, having "transcended" from it, to become, rather than "within" it, "It", itself. The best example of a transcendental being given a name and properly deified is the Vedic Brahman (sp?)...
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It's philosophy, it sounds right, but just to simple  To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Believe me or not.....
Empirical- The belief that your life is shaped by Destiny where by you play an important part in the universe.......
Transcendental- The belief that the universe has no care for our pitiful lives and what we do makes no difference.....
Very brief to be sure..... I could expound upon it more and yet I am feeling lazy.... at least you should understand the "just" of it... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. S.O.D. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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Makes perfect sense, so I than would be an empirical idealist, and transcendental would go better with materialism, however there are both sides?.... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Everything is simple. "Philosophies" (and that's a broad term as it is! I was merely stating in my reply that "Transcendental and Empirical" could be used as terms to describe the state of existance of a being or deity.. entity. You're reply, in tern, came accross as rather snappy :p) don't work unless they're simple. So BLEH to you. :p | |
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I dub thee EI..... hehe....
so what is your destiny Jordyn????
Ummm.... as for me I am merely a sleeping soul dreaming I am awake.... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. S.O.D. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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El? I haven't figured that one out yet... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Simple is the key that fits the lock to our complex souls...... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. S.O.D. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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Quote: Originally posted by Jordyn El? I haven't figured that one out yet... | Maybe your destiny is to figure out your destiny.... boy I love that... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. S.O.D. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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O.k. but what's with the el? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Empirical Idealist..... EI.... heheh...... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. S.O.D. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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that was bad... and it is everyone's destiny to LEARN of their destiny, even if its just a brief moment of realization before they die... of course they LEARN it... but UNDERSTAND it or RECOGNISE it may not apply... ___Nick_the_Rogue___ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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so gentleman, how does one go about finding/learning or even understanding their destiny; meditation, free association, dreams...and then at the point of death, it all falls into place, what good is it than? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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if ya keep trying ta find it it won't come! just like a scared bunnie... | |
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Evil Mr. Bunnie has nothing to do with this..... except that he is everyones destiny.... as he shall rule the world and command respect from all.... bow before the bunnie.... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. S.O.D. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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I'll bow down to you, but no bunny!:p To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Kant was an idiot, along with John Calvin. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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And you base that statement on..? You promised me the ending would be clear
You'd let me know when the time was now
Don't let me know when you're opening the door
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They were philosophers, I have not read anything with John Calivin, but Kant is a difficult read....perhaphs that had something to do with it? What have you read by either? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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