http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...088090949.html

Although it's no doubt a hoax it's still really cool and says a lot about the power of fantasy and imagination.

holy fukk, they found a baby seraphim? who the hell would just leave it in a garage? i don't believe they had the technology to create and/or mold anything that realistic. omg omg omg I have'nt seen one in so long. shit is really going to hit the fan.

on second thought it might be fake. However they are awesome creatures and it would be awesome to see a real one.


Bel and the Dragon

Bel.1
[1] When King Astyages was laid with his fathers, Cyrus the Persian received his kingdom.
[2] And Daniel was a companion of the king, and was the most honored of his friends.
[3] Now the Babylonians had an idol called Bel, and every day they spent on it twelve bushels of fine flour and forty sheep and fifty gallons of wine.
[4] The king revered it and went every day to worship it. But Daniel worshiped his own God.
[5] And the king said to him, "Why do you not worship Bel?" He answered, "Because I do not revere man-made idols, but the living God, who created heaven and earth and has dominion over all flesh."
[6] The king said to him, "Do you not think that Bel is a living God? Do you not see how much he eats and drinks every day?"
[7] Then Daniel laughed, and said, "Do not be deceived, O king; for this is but clay inside and brass outside, and it never ate or drank anything."
[8] Then the king was angry, and he called his priests and said to them, "If you do not tell me who is eating these provisions, you shall die.
[9] But if you prove that Bel is eating them, Daniel shall die, because he blasphemed against Bel." And Daniel said to the king, "Let it be done as you have said."
[10] Now there were seventy priests of Bel, besides their wives and children. And the king went with Daniel into the temple of Bel.
[11] And the priests of Bel said, "Behold, we are going outside; you yourself, O king, shall set forth the food and mix and place the wine, and shut the door and seal it with your signet.
[12] And when you return in the morning, if you do not find that Bel has eaten it all, we will die; or else Daniel will, who is telling lies about us."
[13] They were unconcerned, for beneath the table they had made a hidden entrance, through which they used to go in regularly and consume the provisions.
[14] When they had gone out, the king set forth the food for Bel. Then Daniel ordered his servants to bring ashes and they sifted them throughout the whole temple in the presence of the king alone. Then they went out, shut the door and sealed it with the king's signet, and departed.
[15] In the night the priests came with their wives and children, as they were accustomed to do, and ate and drank everything.
[16] Early in the morning the king rose and came, and Daniel with him.
[17] And the king said, "Are the seals unbroken, Daniel?" He answered, "They are unbroken, O king."
[18] As soon as the doors were opened, the king looked at the table, and shouted in a loud voice, "You are great, O Bel; and with you there is no deceit, none at all."
[19] Then Daniel laughed, and restrained the king from going in, and said, "Look at the floor, and notice whose footsteps these are."
[20] The king said, "I see the footsteps of men and women and children."
[21] Then the king was enraged, and he seized the priests and their wives and children; and they showed him the secret doors through which they were accustomed to enter and devour what was on the table.
[22] Therefore the king put them to death, and gave Bel over to Daniel, who destroyed it and its temple.
[23] There was also a great dragon, which the Babylonians revered.
[24] And the king said to Daniel, "You cannot deny that this is a living god; so worship him."
[25] Daniel said, "I will worship the Lord my God, for he is the living God.
[26] But if you, O king, will give me permission, I will slay the dragon without sword or club." The king said, "I give you permission."
[27] Then Daniel took pitch, fat, and hair, and boiled them together and made cakes, which he fed to the dragon. The dragon ate them, and burst open. And Daniel said, "See what you have been worshiping!"

The root of Seraphim comes either from the Hebrew verb saraph ('to burn') or the Hebrew noun saraph (a fiery, flying serpent). This is a text that was cut off the end of daniel. I do not know exactly why.

Whatever it's made from, it's rather cunningly crafted. It looks like a very modern representation of a dragon, however. I wonder if they can carbon date the material to learn when it was actually crafted? If it actually did come from the 19th century as they suggest, my hat's off to the sculptor.

wow. That looks amazing. mad skillaz!

If it does turn out to be real do you suppose they'll release the news or will they just hide it? If they release it.. wouldn't it be cool if someone tried to clone it

No. Every crappy sci-fi movie I've seen with that premise ends badly. Usually lots of people are eaten before the dragon is blown up in a big, expensive pyrotechnic scene.

I'd love to have that in a curio cabinet at home. It is well crafted.
In the picture you can see the umbilical cord but I wonder about reproductive organs or signs of gender?

Not surprising if they don't show. It's difficult to discern sex on most reptiles without close examination.

~smacks her head~
I should know that, I have a snake.

HAha good point. If it's for real, it would definitely not be made public, and I agree, it looks incredible and questionable if it was made at the time suggested.

I always thought of dragons(and dragonnettes) as avian creatures.. And hatched from eggs.. Why would it have an umbilical cord??

well if it turns out to be real, perhaps we'll know the answer to what came first..the dragon or the egg

. . . I don't know if I should consider that to be really witty or a really lame joke. I think that it might be both.

Obviously a hoax. Still, kind of fun.

Well, there are a few reptiles that give birth to live young, but those usually simply incubate their eggs in their own body. It is an interesting take to give a reptilian creature such a mammlian feature though.

doesn't quite sound real enough for me.

even chickens have a cord inside the egg don't they? it attaches to the yolk the same as a mammel's ataches to the plecinta?

if it made you smile, i don't care what you think of it

looks like a reptilian / illuminati embryo to me....

all the best man,
Oazaki.

So if it didn't make me smile you would care? Then you would also care what I thought of it. It did make me chuckle a bit though.
I'm surprised that this has become such a good topic of discussion. I'll have to look around for other things like this.

if it didn't make you smile, you probably wouldn't have said anything