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Down the slippery slope - 09-30-05

Who said that gay marriages didnt lead to marriages between multiple members? Next stop we can do away with that age of consent thing, followed by incestuous marriages. Then FINNALLY Beast-Man marriages YES!

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09-30-05

How is that related to legalised gay marriage?


  
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09-30-05

Hmm they legalized gay marriages a few years back over there, and then all the polygamists went ape shit and started up the "equal rights" nonsense and all that shit. Now they have had thier practices legalized. Get it? Its a slippery slope. You get one and you get em all.
  
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Fine with me. Not that I think it will happen.


  
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So they'll get tax benefits now? Isn't that the only actual benefit of getting married and getting a marriage certificate?

On a side note all the states in the US that are the most vehemently opposed to gay marriages are the ones with the highest levels of incestuality and beastiality. But they don't get tax benefits so it's alright.

There is direct proof that children can't give consent. There is direct proof that animals can't give consent. That is why those things will not get legalized.
  
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Fine with me. Not that I think it will happen.
Not tommorrow at least but its going to be a big push. Luckily the US isnt a liberal shit fest like Most of Europe and we still alue SOME traditions and our right to self defense amoung other things. We got to see how our own gay marriage brouhaha plays out 1st though. Hopefully the Mass legislature can get thier act together and over ride the damage already done soon.
  
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So they'll get tax benefits now? Isn't that the only actual benefit of getting married and getting a marriage certificate?

On a side note all the states in the US that are the most vehemently opposed to gay marriages are the ones with the highest levels of incestuality and beastiality. But they don't get tax benefits so it's alright.

There is direct proof that children can't give consent. There is direct proof that animals can't give consent. That is why those things will not get legalized.
Yea yeah there was direct proof that 3 people couldnt get married and niether could gays too at one point. But as things go we have a way of forgetting and rewritting.

And no taxes arent the only benefit to marriage. Marriage while a legal thing is also a social thing and having the government make it official is like a seal of societys approval. Start fucking with that and make it worthless and people will just stop getting married. Which in my opinion is the ultimate goal of some of these people.

Look up the statistics in countries like Sweden or Denmark, where after gay marriage was legalized heterosexual marriages literally almost ended overnight. Illigitimate childbirth and crime rose from the breakdown of the fmaily structure and now the government has to import violent muslims to combat the negative birth rates. Or pay heterosexuals in handsome tax packages to get hitched and bear kids. Its fucking lame all stemming from 1 decision, to redefine marriage and destroy it as a social institution. Now they got Polygamy. JOY
  
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I dunno... its kinda like saying that smoking pot leads to heroin abuse... or drinking alcohol leads to spousal abuse.....



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Not exactly Dyshade, youre comparing apples to oranges.

Gays wanted something there, they got it. Other groups of deviants wanted the same and got it. Its a downward expansion to the bottom of the barrel.

And while many times pot DOES lead to a DESIRE to experiment with newer drugs, it isnt the same analogy. Pot in my case made me want to try other drugs because I liked feeling high, I wondered what other effects other drugs would have had. And since Pot felt safe and was good It bolstered my courage enough to try shit like Acid and Mushrooms.

We can boil it down and say that it lead me to them I guess, but thats not entirely accurate. Because more than likely I would have tried differnt drugs anyway.

Would there be legalized polygamy if they didnt have a gay rights movement and gay marriage in over there? Absolutely not.
  
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If you want an analogy that works though, its like saying Electing Bush gave us a Neo-con slant to our government. It did in the worst way.
  
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Oh, those evil homosexuals, subverting societies sense of right and wrong, next thing we know, we'll have an ignorant populace that can't grow up and leave highschool, much less be expected to participate in the political system. High crime rates, high divorce rates, incest, bestiality and child abuse . . . Not to mention a president that makes me feel even worse everytime a crisis occurs because of his inneptitude and favoritism . . .
Oh my God! Those Evil, Vile, Devious homosexuals! What have they done to our great nation! Imagine what will happen if we allow them to marry . . .
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Not exactly Dyshade, youre comparing apples to oranges.

Gays wanted something there, they got it. Other groups of deviants wanted the same and got it. Its a downward expansion to the bottom of the barrel.

And while many times pot DOES lead to a DESIRE to experiment with newer drugs, it isnt the same analogy. Pot in my case made me want to try other drugs because I liked feeling high, I wondered what other effects other drugs would have had. And since Pot felt safe and was good It bolstered my courage enough to try shit like Acid and Mushrooms.

We can boil it down and say that it lead me to them I guess, but thats not entirely accurate. Because more than likely I would have tried differnt drugs anyway.

Would there be legalized polygamy if they didnt have a gay rights movement and gay marriage in over there? Absolutely not.
Its the same mentality.

Gay marriage leads to deviant lifestyles and thier acceptance.

Pot leads to the abuse of heroin.

Drinking alcohol leads to spousal abuse.

Same mentality.

Our Federal Government will never allow Polygamy.

Gay marriage perhaps--- it is between two consenting adults and can be compared to a regular heterosexual mariage in that sense. Polygamy cannot be compared to it. Polygamy involves many more than two consenting adults and often leads to incest and pedophilia. For proof of that you just have to look at Southern Utah and northern Arizona.



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Oh, those evil homosexuals, subverting societies sense of right and wrong, next thing we know, we'll have an ignorant populace that can't grow up and leave highschool, much less be expected to participate in the political system. High crime rates, high divorce rates, incest, bestiality and child abuse . . . Not to mention a president that makes me feel even worse everytime a crisis occurs because of his inneptitude and favoritism . . .
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We know what will happen, you allow one and then you get the whole shebang. The results? A weaker society, more crime, less children being born and ultimately extinction.

They legalized gay marriages, not more than 5years later they had to legalize polygamy. Play dumb all you want. Its rather obvious. All the assholes were saying NOOOOO gay marriages WONT do anything other than let gays marry people wont be able to get into polygamous marriages or anything its all safe!

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Its the same mentality.

Gay marriage leads to deviant lifestyles and thier acceptance.

Pot leads to the abuse of heroin.

Drinking alcohol leads to spousal abuse.

Same mentality.

Our Federal Government will never allow Polygamy.

Gay marriage perhaps--- it is between two consenting adults and can be compared to a regular heterosexual mariage in that sense. Polygamy cannot be compared to it. Polygamy involves many more than two consenting adults and often leads to incest and pedophilia. For proof of that you just have to look at Southern Utah and northern Arizona.
Its not the same. Its apples and oranges. Smoking pot doesnt mean that youll be forced to smoke crack or sniff heroin. You have a choice. Your comparing society at large to an individuals choices. Doesnt work.

Legalize gay marriage and you have no grounds to keep pedophelia marriages or polygamous marriages illegal. As shown here. If we get one, we get all. Or else do you advocate writing discrimination into the constitution?
  
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what does 2 consenting adults living together have to do with the rape of children?
  
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09-30-05

I've had this argument with Billy before. And despite his rather.... vehement opinions, I just don't see what the difference is.

It's hard to take you seriously, Billy, and not just assume this is another one of your anti-homo tirades. If you weren't such a vocal homophobe, your arguments might hold a bit more sway. As it stands, it just seems like you're vocalizing your hatred and/or digust for a particular kind of person.


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Its not the same. Its apples and oranges. Smoking pot doesnt mean that youll be forced to smoke crack or sniff heroin. You have a choice. Your comparing society at large to an individuals choices. Doesnt work.

Legalize gay marriage and you have no grounds to keep pedophelia marriages or polygamous marriages illegal. As shown here. If we get one, we get all. Or else do you advocate writing discrimination into the constitution?
Yes you do. Polygamy is the union of 3 or more folks not two. That right there is a huge difference and in no way discrimination. It has also been shown that the overwhelming majority of polygamist relationships tend to promote incest and pedophilia. About 80% of those relationships involved some sort of incest or pedophilia which are not conducive to a healthy relationship. Just on those merits alone polygamy will never see legal support. Regardless of legalized homosexual marriage.

Pointing to another country and saying it will happen here is in no way a sure fire thing. That country also has legalized drug use yet we do not. And even if we did nothing about the percentages or statistics would be the same. The United States has an entirely different demographic.

Believe me I see your point and yet I do have to dismiss it as irrelevent.



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what does 2 consenting adults living together have to do with the rape of children?
Most men who rape children are heterosexual. They would never sleep with a man but see nothing wrong with buggering boys. Strange that.



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Legalize gay marriage and you have no grounds to keep pedophelia marriages or polygamous marriages illegal. As shown here. If we get one, we get all. Or else do you advocate writing discrimination into the constitution?
It's not the same. It's apples and really rank oranges. Gay marriages being okay does NOT mean it's right for adults to "marry" kids. Marriage is about two adults, who supposedly love each other, entering a binding legal contract which entails social and economic benefits.


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