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10-05-05

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It's better than doing NO job for NO money and getting NO cock and having absolutely NOTHING.

Capitalism in its pure form is a fantastic notion. Communism in its pure form is a fantastic notion. But you can't have paradise with people in it. All of it gets fucked up. Your country, my country, all countries. We're all the same, dude.

Sorry. Not agree.

It's better to kill, fuck the system and smile of violence.

Imposition? Destruction.


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I dont even see how the homeless cant get a job. Most of the time they are said to be people who have "given up" that doesnt sound like a permant problem. Nothing a shower, shave and smile cant fix certainly.

I'm not disagreeing with you. But homeless people aren't really the issue. I could care less about them. It's the welfare moochers that I can't stand.


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Following Billy the kidd and the Frog´s way of thinking, your parents were just lazy.
You should learn the whole truth before making venemous statements such as that. Your words only prove to convince me of your ignorance of the abilities we have and the privilidges we have living in America. My Step-father died when I was 13; went blind when I was 11 and became terminally ill when I was 8. As such it was my Mother who had to support me and my brother all by herself as well as pay huge medical bills due to my dad having to have treatments 3 times a week. I was dirt poor because we were supporting my dad for as long as we could.
My mom is now remarried and living in a nice house on 5 acres of land in california. My brother owns his own house as well. As do I.

All of us worked very hard to get what we have. Scoff if you will but the ability to do this is one of the more beautiful sides of this country.

Before you make ridiculous statements which belittle a persons family you should learn the entire story. Elsewise you make yourself out to be somewhat of an ass. I am not saying you are one; because appearances can be decieving.



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Sorry. Not agree.

It's better to kill, fuck the system and smile of violence.

Imposition? Destruction.

I don't know if anyone's told you this or not, but your posts don't make a bit of sense.


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So the thousands of poor people all over every capitalist country are only that: lazy fuckers. Good to know!. Then New Orleans must be the paradise of the lazies, it seems there were a lot of them, according to what we saw on TV (?)
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I'm not disagreeing with you. But homeless people aren't really the issue. I could care less about them. It's the welfare moochers that I can't stand.
Oh me too. Motherfuckers. The homeless at least dont usually get welfare and refuse to work. They just gave up on society. Welfare moochers burn me in the worst fucking way. The fact that there are scumbags out there living in a ghetto wearing Tims and buying hooch with my money and scum living in a trailer refusing to work while they get fatter all day and fuck every person with a genitalia in the park just fucking burns me so bad.
  
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BILLY SAYS: Hmm I dont remember saying people should suck dick for money, but since youre a socialist leech without a concept of "WORK" I can see why you'd think that was the only way.

"Surely I work more than you, for I don't... well then the system is not so good for you at the end."

And WHo the fuck DOESNT need Materials? You gotta be either Rich or Insane to think people dont need materials. We are physical beings, we require physical things.

"YOU don't understand me. I said "materials YOU (capitalists) get from other poor and fucked up countries. I know that you recognized somewhere that capitalism needs poverty to keep on going."

If that bothers you, suicide is always an option.

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You should learn the whole truth before making venemous statements such as that. Your words only prove to convince me of your ignorance of the abilities we have and the privilidges we have living in America. My Step-father died when I was 13; went blind when I was 11 and became terminally ill when I was 8. As such it was my Mother who had to support me and my brother all by herself as well as pay huge medical bills due to my dad having to have treatments 3 times a week. I was dirt poor because we were supporting my dad for as long as we could.
My mom is now remarried and living in a nice house on 5 acres of land in california. My brother owns his own house as well. As do I.

All of us worked very hard to get what we have. Scoff if you will but the ability to do this is one of the more beautiful sides of this country.

Before you make ridiculous statements which belittle a persons family you should learn the entire story. Elsewise you make yourself out to be somewhat of an ass. I am not saying you are one; because appearances can be decieving.
Sorry to hear the sad story. But it was not me who stated that those who are poor are just lazy fuckers. Read the posts above, you will se who has said so. Thefrog and Billy were symplifying the reality as much as I have ever seen.
  
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Sorry. Not agree.

It's better to kill, fuck the system and smile of violence.

Imposition? Destruction.
Regardless of country that line of thought is fairly asinine and juvenile.

you in one post suggest that our capitilist country destroys natural resources and in another suggest that you would love to do the same. i think that perhaps you should seek some counseling for your inherent depression.



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"Surely I work more than you, for I don't... well then the system is not so good for you at the end."


What?



"YOU don't understand me. I said "materials YOU (capitalists) get from other poor and fucked up countries. I know that you recognized somewhere that capitalism needs poverty to keep on going."

Bullshit. capitolism works FINE in China, and they dont import goods from poorer countries. Capitolism is working fine in Russia where they dont import many goods from poorer countries. Same with india and Mexico. Capitolism destroys poverty. Its socialism and communism that makes poverty, that makes people stop working, and when people stop working they rely on the government, and when they rely on the government they are let down and stuf to wallow in despair and filth. You are wrong, and ignorant.



"No. I prefer kill you."

You can try, but being a freedom loving yankee I must warn you I exercise my 2nd amendment rights.
  
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I don't know if anyone's told you this or not, but your posts don't make a bit of sense.

I think you don't know about history or present events then.


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May some of you ask this question please?

I'll answer it. It's difficult for you to understand, given that you don't live here. You've never been to New Orleans. Sure the news paints a pretty pathetic picture of how HORRIBLE life is for the poor of the city. But you've never walked down Bourbon Street and had your ass groped by teenage boys who make lewd comments to you, and when you don't respond call you and uptight rich bitch.

Do you know what "projects" are? It's low-income housing, usually government supported. They're purposely built to house those that don't have money. The money they DO have also comes from the government. It's called welfare.

I bet you've never gone to the grocery store after working your ass off at a crappy job, with a budget. And buy off-brand items and only the bare essentials because of that budget. And you end up in line behind someone that gets government assistance, called food stamps. And they're buying the best of everything. The money they have left over they use to buy cigarettes, condoms, and beer.

I'm sure it's all very poignant on television. I don't assume things about your country, because I've never been there. Don't assume about mine.


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I don't know if anyone's told you this or not, but your posts don't make a bit of sense.
You were asking for european opinions, our english is not the best on Earth. I have learnt english by my own, for example. If you want answers in french, latin, greek, dutch, deutch, vasque, castilian or hungarian just say so.
  
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Sorry to hear the sad story. But it was not me who stated that those who are poor are just lazy fuckers. Read the posts above, you will se who has said so. Thefrog and Billy were symplifying the reality as much as I have ever seen.
No, we said poor people who remain poor are so because they are lazy. There is NO EXCUSE for being poor in this country. All you need to do is bust your ass and work hard and you will make a better living for yourself. It is YOU who seems to think that capitolism is making people poor, and you know what? history doesnt agree with you. Look at ANY non-capitoliist country in history and compare it to a capitolist country. Compare the US for example to the old USSR. North Korea to South Korea, Japan to pre-capitiolist China.
  
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I think you don't know about history or present events then.

I know plenty about a wide variety of things. We'll try discussing physics sometime and see how you hold up.

Your posts are garbled and contradicting of eachother.


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Sorry to hear the sad story. But it was not me who stated that those who are poor are just lazy fuckers. Read the posts above, you will se who has said so. Thefrog and Billy were symplifying the reality as much as I have ever seen.
You just stated it. In the post I quoted.

You took thier posts out of context in order to make a personal jibe toward me. Nor is it a sad story. It is life. Life is not sad. It is wonderful.

They were making a suggestion that those who expect everything on a silver platter are poor because they are too lazy to go out of thier way to get jobs and work hard for a living. I would have to agree with that. There are symptoms of idiocy amongst the greater protion of the population here in the united states that are poor. I was homeless as well once myself and feel no pity for someone who cannot dredge themselves out of a gutter to better themselves.
I was homeless because I was at the time lazy. I did not want a job and expected everything to be handed down to me. That sort of mentality gets you nowhere in a hurry.



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You were asking for european opinions, our english is not the best on Earth. I have learnt english by my own, for example. If you want answers in french, latin, greek, dutch, deutch, vasque, castilian or hungarian just say so.

I wasn't referring to his grammar or syntax. I was referring to the numerous logical fallacies.


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