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For the most part, all stimulants are fucking crap, aside from maybe caffeine as a not so addictive pick me up, or ephedrine as a bronchilidator, or a dietary supplement, or whatever one might use it for besides a euphoric agent. The fact of the matter is most stimulants are not safe at all, the only really safe chemicals you can put in your body that are actually worth doing are THC, caffeine, opium, and DXM, still caffeine can cause brain damage similar (but nowhere near as severe) as MDMA/ AMT/ DMT/ other crappy ass meth based drugs, and I dont know about anyone else but opium and DXM make me horribly nauseaus and not to mention constipated for days, so in actuality the only chemical thats worth using recreationally is THC, and even that is suspected to cause sperm damage, so whats the point of even mentioning any of it? Just do what your going to do and make sure its worth it.


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09-15-04

i wish the entire world were naturally on ecstasy. it would be all peace and love, and really good sex. yeah, in MY perfect world anyway. ha.
  
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09-17-04

ohhh yeah baby that WOULD be a good world........mmmmmm fuck im starting to dream again.........


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09-18-04

Yeah but then it would become normal, thus it would be boring everday life, plus the whole world would be a bunch of stupid braindead Etards with brains the size of cashews.


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09-20-04

it would become everyday life......so what
it would force people to make better drugs.....


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09-21-04

fuck drugs....esp. ectasy.....world peace through artifical happiness makes me want to vomit.......
  
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Your opinion is invalid


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What are some people take on Dramamine (benedryl/motion sickness) I have done it in the past with DXM and THC.... i did a whole bottle or robotussin have a benedryl (150mg of dramamine) it was a realistic hallucinogenic experience... i have read stuff about it and experiences on "erowid.org" and most people do 600mg of it by it's self... i am going to just split a 24 pack or motion sickness pills between me and 2 friends with makes out to 400mg a piece....... anyways i am actually going into this semi unprepared, i have done it at the low does before with DXM and have read little about it.... i just wanted to hear people who have done it's opinion on it... or anything interesting...
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09-28-04

The drug I most disapprove of is weed, I think it is by far the most harmful.
  
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09-28-04

HAHAHA... umm ok

and where is your logic?


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09-28-04

I don't do drugs. No alchohol, no tabacco, no caffine, no perscriptions meds, no over the counter meds, no illegal substances, no natural mind altering things the government hasn't outlawed yet.

Drugs are for the weak.


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09-30-04

"drugs are for the weak"?

and where is your evidence for that statement


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09-30-04

I beat the shit out of every druggy that's stepped at me.

Drugs are a crutch for people who's lives are too pathetic to find fulfillment in reality.

Drugs poison the body and the mind.

There's not a lot of debate left for this type of thing. I've had smokers come tell me that although smoking scars your lungs, that if you stop any point during life your body can heal the tissue quickly and none of it will be scar tissue. I don't believe it.

I've had alcoholics who looked emaciated and sick claim to me that alcohol has no physical repercussions, even though there current condition was an obvious result of poisoning since alcohol is, after all, a poison.

I've had more people than I can count tell me about how psycho reactive drugs are everything from a stress reliever to a spiritual tool, most of them are in hospitals or dead now.

Generally speaking, everyone I've met who indulges in these things is in poor physical and mental condition. Those who weren't at first eventually became so. Those that quit grew stronger than they were before. It's not that difficult a concept, it was taught to you in 1st grade, drugs are not good for you.

Even if you were to go on some long schpeel about how the scientific make up of one or a couple particular drugs made them harmless to people, I pose the question why you would take it anyways? Sure you may not be mentally dependent on it (yet), but if you do it at all it's still a type of dependency, you're doing something that has absolutely no reward other than the good feelings it gives you. It has no purpose, it creates nothing, it is meaningless, self indulgence to the extreme.


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It's an experience, and Teaching that drugs are bad in school is all USA FUCKING BULLSHIT that you've been brainwashed with... i won't argue that drugs aren't bad because you can't be that indirect about it... yes there are bad drugs for sure, but there are also completely harmless drugs, the most harmless being shrooms (the point i will argue). Yes it is a poison you put in your body but alcohol is 10X more damaging then the poison from shrooms when compared at how much it takes to get you drunk and how much it takes for shrooms to get you high... 2nd "why do them?" same reason you would go bowling or even go to school. Shrooms are a fun recreation drug for when you are bored. School, well i have learned at lot form doing them not like WWII or anything like that, but i have learned a lot about my self, so much i can't even start to say, I have learned to take a whole different perspective on things and over all I can say mushrooms have bettered me as a person a LOT!... dependancy, it's not that I or anyone that does them or any other drugs that are not addictive are dependent on them, it's that we enjoy them a lot because they are fun, which is why we do them... now these aren't all peoples reasons for doing drugs, to get away, blah blah blah. Honestly that is why I started drugs, but this is a stupid reason to do them. It doesn't solve anything and you can become "dependent" because you want to get away and it helps, well then your are just being irresponsible using drugs in this manor and you are weak... but i have become stronger from them and I don't run to them whenever i have a problem in fact when i have a problem i cut myself off from them for as long as I have the problem, i have learned many things from drugs that i would not have learned otherwise or would have taken me longer to learn. Yes I have done stupid things, but drugs don't make me a stupid person or a weak person, i was weak before drugs. Now after them i can say i am stronger of a person.... drugs can fuck up your life when i was doing them to get away and run from my problems my life in school was going like this 1.89 GPA 9th grade, 2.34 GPA 10th grade when i started to be more responsible and not so weak/stupid. Last year i got a 3.44 GPA, and this year i am getting a 3 something so far and i should be graduating early in this november/decmember... and i still do drugs. Overall it really depends on the person and you can't blame the drug in most cases, it is mostly the person themselves, when you start talking about heroin addicts and things like that it is the drug but even before that it was the person. It's purpose for me is pure enjoyment and recreation... it creates nothing but neither does going to the movies, meaningless... recreation/something to hide behind for weaker people, self indulgence i don't get your argument here... we are being so conceded and selfish for doing drugs... i hate debating like this by typing because there is so much that is missed and you can't defend all points as they come.

Anyway you are being very ignorant and you are uneducated about drugs obviously.
Most of your points are invalid the only reason you can get away with them is because your indirect by saying "drugs" just like in school and USA in general... ever notice how they only teach you about heroin, coke, drinking and those kind of drugs because they are addictive and harmful... Drinking they don't touch on health wise only that it can be addicting and drunk driving that kind of thing, people being irresponsible using it, and that is how
half of drugs are.
You shouldn't have an opinion on something you know little about, because you are just being judgmental and stereotypical. It would be a lot more relevant if you had some knowledge about the subject and could back yourself up.
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Good, because you're still wrong. Comparing one drugs negative qualities to another far worse drug's does NOT make the original harmless. Whatever you're at now, you could be better without the drugs, and if the opposit is true and the drugs keep you entertained and happy enough during your down to time to make you do better while you're working, if they made you "stronger" as you claim, they're still exactly what I said they are: a crutch.

Tripping out on drugs, I reiterate, is not constructive, it is at best about as useful as starring at a wall. Even bowling or seeing a movie with friends is social interaction, doing drugs with them is almost the opposit, preoccupying yourselves with a high so that you don't have to interact with each other on your own brain power.

There is no excuse to use drugs other than weakness, and there is no result from using drugs other than weakness.


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Anyway you are being very ignorant and you are uneducated about drugs obviously.
Most of your points are invalid the only reason you can get away with them is because your indirect by saying "drugs" just like in school and USA in general... ever notice how they only teach you about heroin, coke, drinking and those kind of drugs because they are addictive and harmful... Drinking they don't touch on health wise only that it can be addicting and drunk driving that kind of thing, people being irresponsible using it, and that is how
half of drugs are.
You shouldn't have an opinion on something you know little about, because you are just being judgmental and stereotypical. It would be a lot more relevant if you had some knowledge about the subject and could back yourself up.
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I don't need to shoot myself in the foot to know it's not a good idea. I don't need to walk into Harlem with a sign over me that says "I hate niggers" to know it's not a good idea. You can learn from other people's experiences, you can learn from what science teaches you, you can learn a shitload of things by observing and uncovering your ears. I've seen what drugs do to people, and it's never been good in the end.


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10-01-04

I agree with you craz that anything that you can become dependant on is stupid and all but you beat the shit out of every druggie you encounter? Have you ever fought a crackhead? evidently not they dont feel pain and in many cases they just shoot you...


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I beat the shit out of any druggy that stepped at me, pretentious little pricks don't have any concept of pain, kinda like you said, so they bark more than they can back.

I've had crackheads try for it, scratching and bitting at me like an animal. One from my school a while back named Tony kept asking me for money that I didn't have to give him, eventually he started reaching into my pockets on his own. That turned into a brawl real quick, and I put him down with a guilotine choke. Even the toughest guy in the world can't function without oxygen.


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I used to say that, "everyone needs a crutch", but then I started to worry that I just wasn't recognising my own, so I stopped.
  
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